Hello Sieghard, I too use the copy and paste method from notepad for codes like this. However with Window-Eyes I am able to left and right arrow in the edit field so if I happen to type it manually I can review it. I haven't yet updated things from yesterday or this week. So, I'll give that a go and see if they are any different. I like your idea of using a gift card to fuel your purchases so small charges all over the place aren't seen. That sort of brings up a slightly different topic question. If you get a refund for an app which you purchased using your gift card balance, do they just credit that as if it was a credit card? I imagine they do, but thought I'd ask anyway.

Cheers.

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On 5/18/2013 11:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Hi Raul,

I'll pick up a card later and give it a try, only have $3 credit left
anyways and I actually now like to have credit for buying stuff instead of
having every 99 Cent purchase show up on my credit card.

One thing that comes to mind regarding entering the code once you manage to
get into the edit field is that I often prefer to type the code in something
like Notepad where I know I can review it and make sure it's correct, then
copy it to the clipboard which means I can simply paste it once I'm in the
right place. This way I know it's correct even if I can't review it.

Also, have you downloaded yesterday's iTunes update and the Jaws update from
2 or 3 days ago? They did fix the problem where you couldn't sync selected
Audio Books so maybe there are some other improvements and while I don't
remember Jaws saying anything about iTunes, using the latest update probably
won't hurt.


Regards,
Sieghard


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Subject: Re: redeeming an iTunes gift card using iTunes in Windows

Hello Lois, thanks for that. I'll go try that now and see if I get a second
edit field. OK, I just did and nothing. However this time when I press enter
on the single edit field I hear the Jaws tone indication I'm in forms mode.
I also hear press insert-f1. I type a code in, but I can't review it with
left and right arrows. This is some progress but still not very usable I
think unless I'[m really missing something.

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Raul A. Gallegos
Accordion to a recent survey, replacing words with the names of musical
instruments in a sentence often goes undetected. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter
and Facebook user ID: rau47

On 5/18/2013 10:21 AM, Lois Butterfield wrote:
Okay, I wish I actually had a card.  I did try it and did manage to
get to an edit field.  I got to redeem, and went to where it said
edit.  It wasn't really an edit field though.  I then tabbed once,
there it said edit, and I entered into the edit field where I could
type.  I don't know why it worked though.  I am using jaws 14 and windows
7, 64 bit.

Good luck,
Lois


-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 11:11 AM
To: ViPhone List
Subject: redeeming an iTunes gift card using iTunes in Windows

Hi all. I am having a rather interesting problem and would like to
share this with you to see if others have had similar experiences. If
they are different then please let me know.

Here's what I have: Windows 7 64-bit, Window-Eyes 8.2, NVDA 2012, and
Jaws 14. Obviously I'm not running more than one screen reader at a
time. I'm using iTunes and am redeeming an iTunes gift card.

Before I continue, I'm not interested in redeeming the card from a Mac
or from the iDevice.

What seems to be happening is that redeeming the gift card using
Window-Eyes and/or NVDA works, but I'm having a hard time with Jaws.
I've listed the steps below with appropriate comments on where I do
things differently depending on the screen reader and maybe you guys
can correct me on the Jaws parts since I'm not as comfortable with it
as I am with Window-Eyes.

1. With iTunes running I start in the source list tree view.

2. I up or down arrow until I get to the iTunes store.

3. I press either tab or f6 until I get to the account button. This is
past the various app store category buttons like music, apps, iTunes U,
ETC.

4. Once at the right button I press the space bar and a context menu
pops up. I down arrow once to the Redeem menu item and press enter.

The first 4 steps work well with all 3 screen readers, but here is
where Jaws departs and NVDA and Window-Eyes continue to work for me.

5. After pressing enter on Redeem, I am asked to sign into my Apple ID
account. I'm already on the password field. So, I type my Apple ID
password and press enter. So far, so good.

6. Now the html portion of iTunes loads with the redeem section tied
to my account. Using Window-Eyes, it's automatically in Browse Mode
where things like h for headings, e for edit boxes, and b for buttons
work.
The same is true for NVDA and Jaws and they also use similar quick
access keys.

7. I tab to the edit field where I am to enter in my redeem code. With
Window-Eyes I press enter on the edit field and Browse Mode turns off
and I am in real iTunes world just as if there was no screen reader. I
type in my code and press enter and voila. With NVDA I do the same,
and I can even just press tab and the Browse Mode of it also turns off
and I can enter in my code and get it to work. Now with Jaws, it seems
that no matter what I do, I cannot get out of their virtual mode. They
don't call it Browse mode like Window-Eyes and NVDA do. I'm only
pointing that out for those who use one screen reader or another that
Browse Mode and Virtual Mode are basically the same thing.

Using Jaws, I press the numpad-plus key to see if this will say pc
cursor, but no matter what I do it only says virtual pc cursor. I also
tried pressing insert-z to stop using virtual mode, and again, nothing.
I tried routing the jaws cursor, i.e. the mouse pointer, to the pc
cursor location and see if I could do it that way, but again, nothing.

What got me started on this journey was 2 things. First, I saw a $100
iTunes gift card on sale at Best Buy for $85. Second, a client also
purchased this upon my recommendation. I use Window-Eyes and my client
uses Jaws. My client is mostly comfortable with iTuens, but a few
things are difficult. So, when he called me with this issue at first I
thought he was doing something wrong, however if it's not working for
me either, and so either this doesn't work as it should, or I'm also
doing something wrong and would like to learn what so I can avoid this
issue in the future.

I welcome ideas and suggestions on what I can try to make it possible
to redeem iTunes gift cards using this similar type of setup.

Thanks all.

--
Raul A. Gallegos
I would have been here sooner but the bus kept stopping for other
people to get on it. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID:
rau47


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