Hi David.

I do not mind turning the page, it reminds me a little of old days with a 
braille book, it can in some ways be handy. What I miss is that e.g. ibooks 
shows me the next page when I press next page as kindle do, the lack for me is 
that the page not always refreshes, this might be a braille bug.

Kindle has solved the problem with paragraphs that we have in ibooks and a lot 
of other apps.

Cheers Annie.


Den May 25, 2013 kl. 12:48 AM skrev David Chittenden <[email protected]>:

> No, no, no, sighted people do NOT scroll continuously in reading apps such as 
> Kindle. Each page of text fills the screen. Sighted people read the screen 
> like a page in a book. They then touch the right-hand corner of the display 
> which looks like the corner of a page, and quickly slide the finger across 
> the screen to the left side. The display shows a graphic of a page turning 
> whilst the new page worth of text is being put up in the background. Once the 
> graphic is finished, the new page worth of text is clearly displayed.
> 
> Many experiments done over the past several decades consistently show that 
> people overwhelmingly prefer this method for reading rather than continuously 
> scrolling text. Apparently, the majority of people find continuous scrolling 
> of text to be stressful.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: [email protected]
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> 
> On 25/05/2013, at 9:35, "Eileen Misrahi" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Scott, 
>> 
>> I totally agree. I am not moving from the IOS platform anytime soon. From
>> all the discussions about Android, Apple is the Mercedes Benz when it comes
>> to accessibility. For a lot of us, braille is the prefer method to read our
>> books, so in a  ksense the blind community lags behind our sighted folks
>> that can scroll continuously. I have moved away from using my Apex with my
>> iPhone, but I need to get back to it, as my contracted braille skills aren't
>> being used much with BrailleTouch (not at all). We should all tip our hats
>> to Apple for being able to use a device right out of the box. I guess if
>> there are enough of us that politely contact Apple accessibility, it may
>> climb the ladder a little bit. Thanks for your input. 
>> 
>> Eileen 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
>> Of Scott Davert
>> Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 11:27 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Kindle with Braille display
>> 
>> Hi Eileen.
>> Sadly, Apple is a closed type system, and if Android ever gets just as
>> usable with braille as Apple, and it has the ability to do continuous
>> reading, it's something I'll have to give a serious look. I use braille
>> almost exclusively now, so it's a major thing for me. I'd love it if Apple
>> would make it possible to scroll continuously with a braille display, but
>> I'm sure it's very low on their list of priorities at this point. There are
>> some rather significant VoiceOver issues that need reparing, namely, the
>> inability to go from heading to heading without the page moving in odd ways.
>> 
>> Scott
>> 
>> On 5/24/13, Eileen Misrahi <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Hi Scott,
>>> 
>>> I guess these responses get me furious that Apple can be so anal and 
>>> controlling of what can be permitted or not. This is an accessibility 
>>> problem to make the reading experience more enjoyable and efficient. JMO.
>>> 
>>> Eileen
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
>>> Behalf Of Scott Davert
>>> Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 11:06 AM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: Kindle with Braille display
>>> 
>>> Hi.
>>> It's an Apple limitation in the braille driver. Continuous reading 
>>> with braille displays is not an option with any app.
>>> 
>>> Scott
>>> 
>>> On 5/24/13, Peter Bosher <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Hi All, I'm using the Kindle iPhone app to read books in Braille with 
>>>> an Apex  Braillenote, and fantastic it is too, apart from this glitch:
>>>> when I use the next-page command, either from the Apex or on the 
>>>> phone, it  is very unreliable.  It sometimes stays on the same page, 
>>>> sometimes  jumps two pages forward, and occasionally goes correctly 
>>>> to the next  page.  Has anyone found a reliable way to read 
>>>> continuously from a  Braille display? Best, Peter ******* Peter Bosher,
>> Email:
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>>>> 794 797 Fax: (+44) (0) 1494
>>>> 583 146 snail:// SoundLinks Limited, 43 Broadlands Avenue, Chesham, 
>>>> Bucks.
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