Q: why can't we have the subscribe address so we can do it the email route?
Ta, R. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna" <merma...@bellsouth.net> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 11:53 PM Subject: Re: New Blind Photography list -was- Re: personal photo experience was: Re: taking photos when blind Hi Cara I followed the link to the photography group that you started. I can't find where to join. Could you please send me the direct link to join? Taking pics is one of my fave hobbies,, or it use to be, until I lost my sight a year ago. I want to get back into pic taking, but the lack of confidence and having to rely on a sighted person to edit my pics is what is holding me back. I'm hoping that the group will help to draw me out of my shell. Donna > Hi All, > > For those interested on both lists, I've just started a Blind Photography > group at: > > http://groups.google.com/group/blindphotography > > Membership is open right now so y'all can join but I'll be making the > group invite-only very shortly so we head-off spammers before they start. > :) > > Please feel free to come on in and continue this great discussion! > > This group is not limited to use of cameras on Macs or iDevices, but is > open to all discussion around photography and the blind / visually > impaired… > > Enjoy and see y'all there! > > Cara :) > On Jun 5, 2013, at 11:01 AM, Kay Malmquist <kay.malmqu...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > You know, I find this topic very interesting and wish there were > somewhere > that those of us interested could talk more about it. Any tips, thought > and > discussion would be neat. I hate to even suggest this, but maybe a list > for > this subject would be quite popular. > > Kay Malmquist > kay.malmqu...@gmail.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cara Quinn" <modelc...@gmail.com> > To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 12:44 PM > Subject: Re: personal photo experience was: Re: taking photos when blind > > > Rob, while some may know that photography is one of the closest things to > my > heart, having both shot and modeled for some time, alas, the list does not > take attachments. > > And, though I find this topic to be one of my absolute favorites every > time > it comes up, we do need to focus a bit here on iDevices so perhaps we can > continue this with an emphasis on how iDevices with cameras have > influenced > us as photographers… > > For myself, I've always loved shooting images both when I could see and > after that changed. Not only was the advent of digital photography a > godsend > as I could have the complete abandon and confidence of getting great shots > and not needing to worry about running out of film, but when the iPhone > became accessible and Apple had the amazing quality of insight and > inclusion > to make the camera app fully accessible, it was (and still is) a very > moving > experience for me, for which I'm eternally grateful! :) > > So often, because people would assume the question, 'Why on earth would a > blind person want to use a camera?' it is still amazingly refreshing to me > that Apple completely flew in the face of this wrongly held assumption and > by doing so, made it possible for many more of us to either continue the > art > we love or have the flexibility to become acquainted with a new experience > taking photos, perhaps for the first time… > > Though I'd already had quite a bit of experience composing shots both > behind > and in front of the camera, I decided it would be fun to sit in on a photo > class that the Braille Institute offers, here in LA. I liked it so much I > ended up enrolling in it and used my iPhone constantly, sharing shots I'd > take with the instructor / class. > > I was like the only iPhone user in the class at the time and the quality > of > the pics really did make an impression on the instructor… There were also > class projects similar to the one just discussed in this thread and also > an > exhibition but I'll refrain from going OT here, no matter how much I'd > love > to! :) > > Anyway, for those of you whom find that you really do benefit from the > iDevices as cameras, would you mind sharing your experiences and how these > devices help you? Conversely, for those whom may not feel this way, what > improvements could be made that you feel might help you be able to use the > cameras on iDevices more easily and creatively? > > Thanks a bunch y'all! Great topics and experiences! thanks so much for > sharing!… > > Smiles, > > Cara :) > On Jun 5, 2013, at 2:54 AM, RobH! <bobs...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > I have to say, I like to try the odd angle, an angle you're never gonna > get > putting the camera to your face. With on screen images, even the sighted > don't need to do this any more. > > Can I post a picture to the list, took it yesterday, it is getting quite > a > reaction. Anyone looking at the perspective is gonna know I never got > down > that low to take it or I might not have got up again. > > Ta, R. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joanne Chua" <shuang.an...@gmail.com> > To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> > Cc: <viphone@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 10:44 AM > Subject: OT: personal photo experience was: Re: taking photos when blind > > > Hi, > > After reading some of the post here, i feel that perhaps, might help some > of > you if i share my personal story a little. > > early last year, one of the local art disability organization was having a > series of 6 workshops called "short in the dark" for vision impaired and > blind people on photographing. there're 12 participants that are blind and > vision impaired. We all got a loan digital camera, and learning the basic > of > photographic, taking photos as a blind person. The workshop was conducted > by > Mr. Andrew Follows, one of the blind photographer that base in Melbourne > Australia. > > After the workshops, we then, have the task of taking photos for a special > exhibition, happen in the state library of South Australia, Australia. > The idea of the exhibition is to exhibit about things that blind people > cann > and can't see, using the art of micro photograph, (close up photos). > > I must have took about 5000 photos or more, i think i gone thru 3 x 4gb SD > Cards in the period of 6 weeks. > > It was odd, whenever i go, i'll have the camera with me, and a guidedog. > So, > often, i get people came up to me and ask me if i need help, or, some, > even > questioning if i took someone's camera, or lost, or, one to the extent as > i'm really blind, and if i got a guidedog that is escape from someone's > yard. > Part of the deal is a micro photographer is to go close up with the > subject/object of whatever you photographing. So, i did a lot of crazy > stuff, includes laying on the floor in a quite busy footpath, trying to > capture the foot prints of foot trafics when they went pass on the floor, > to > almost kissing the wall, trying to capture the very texture of the wall > etc > etc. > > To cut the story short, we did have an exhibition on the state library, it > went for a month. 8 out of the 12 participants continued the project after > the first workshop, and 8 of us do stay on the project till the end. > > When i did the project, i often doubting myself, and my ability as a blind > person to take photos, and the quality of the photos. Soon i learn, it > doesn't matter. Even if i took a photo of the garbage bin, (one of my > better > short) it gave a different prospective to others. > When i got disappointed and discourage by the comments from the public, > i > know, when, i was most determine that i want to continue on the project. > > Now, almost 17 month has pass since we started the project, and almost 11 > months pass since the project ended. We are now, talking about finding > ways > to fund the project, to have the second short in the dark project for more > blind and vision impaired people. > > Although it seems weird, or, you may have get lots of weird comments about > you, as a blind person taking photo, but, just remember, you are not > alone.Joanne Chua > Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate. > > On 05/06/2013, at 3:55, Robert Fenton <robert.fen...@samobile.net> wrote: > >> Hello: >> >> This discussion about taking pictures when totally blind interests me. >> How >> does one focus the image correctly? I read somewhere that VoiceOver is >> supposed to tell you when the image is centred. I have never seen that >> happen. >> >> Thanks for your help. >> >> Bob Fenton >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 2013-06-04, at 2:13 PM, "Raul A. Gallegos" <r...@raulgallegos.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hello Sieghard. yes of course. I must have been using my iPhone >>> up-side-down. <grin>. Seriously, thanks for the reminder. I keep >>> forgetting that sometimes jailbreak tweaks add things which one gets >>> used >>> to and then one uses them as if they had always been there. >>> >>> -- >>> Raul A. Gallegos >>> I love strawberry Quik. It's my favorite pink fluid narrowly beating out >>> Pepto-Bismol. - Sheldon Cooper >>> Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 >>> >>> On 6/4/2013 11:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >>>> Hi Raul, just a small correction, it is the volume up button that takes >>>> the >>>> picture. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>> Behalf >>>> Of Raul A. Gallegos >>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 8:02 AM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: taking photos when blind >>>> >>>> Hi, one thing which helps with iPhone picture taking is pressing the >>>> volume >>>> down button also simulates the shutter button. So you don't have to >>>> worry >>>> about moving the phone out of focus when double-tapping the take >>>> picture >>>> button at the bottom center of the screen or doing a 2-finger >>>> double-tap. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Raul A. Gallegos >>>> Harry Potter brand condoms: "Protect your slytherin from Hogwarts while >>>> you're in her chamber of secrets." - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and >>>> Facebook >>>> user ID: rau47 >>>> >>>> On 6/1/2013 7:31 PM, Joanne Chua wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Not sure if such apps exist, however, there are technics you can use >>>>> that >>>> will give you reasonable result with whatever you are photographing. It >>>> can >>>> use in both iphones and also digital camera. >>>>> >>>>> I'm not sure what device you have, let say, you using an iphone. if >>>>> you >>>> taking picture of something, try to aline it on your forhead, as if, >>>> your >>>> eyes become the camera lance. So, whatever you see will be what will be >>>> the >>>> camera sees. If you can picture yourself in front of the object or the >>>> subject you photographing of, you usually have 80% chance of taking it >>>> in a >>>> line as your eye sees it. >>>>> >>>>> It is much easier using a camera, however, using it on an iphone help >>>>> as >>>> well. However, using an iphone does require a lot of practice, as the >>>> take >>>> picture button is on the sscreen. >>>>> >>>>> Another tip, place the phone slitely left to your eye, or to your >>>> forehead, as the lance of the back facing camera is on the top right >>>> side of >>>> the camera. however, if you using the front facing camera, its on the >>>> top >>>> middle. >>>>> >>>>> Again, it takes a lot of practice to get use to, but you'll eventually >>>>> get >>>> there. >>>>> >>>>> Hope this help. >>>>> >>>>> I hope this help. >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> JoanneSent from my iPad >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 01/06/2013, at 5:07, James Lockwood <lockwoo...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Ok. does anyone know of an application for the iphone that gives >>>>>> feedback >>>> about when an item you are taking a picture of is centered ect? the >>>> camera >>>> sometimes does it with faces already. but is there any program out >>>> there >>>> which helps people who are completely blind take good or reasonably >>>> good >>>> photos without the object being half off the screen or off center >>>> drastically? >>>>>> >>>>>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/jim-lockwood-shows-podcast/id55398 >>>>>> 1192 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>>> Google Group. >>>>>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>>>>> --- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups >>>> "VIPhone" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send >>>>>> an >>>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, 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