I agree that Microsoft and IBM have both paid lip service to accessibility, IBM more than MS, but Apple is the first to provide comprehensive accessibility throughout their product line.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 12/06/2013, at 10:10, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> wrote: > I didn't think there was any bad energy, pessimism or worry in Shane's > message or email either. I think people watching their first WWDC keynote > should be able to ask innocent and sincere questions on this list. My only > frustration with Shane's message, which I solved with the delete key, is that > this has already been discussed on this list. There's going to be a lot of > discussion on this list about IOS 7 and the WWDC, so if people are > interested, I'd suggest they pay attention to these discussions on this list > and maybe even look through the archives before asking a question that they > think might have already come up. Note I wouldn't have said anything about > this at all, if I wasn't already responding to Fred's message. > > Also, in my opinion, Apple wasn't the first computer company to care about > accessibility. Microsoft and IBM were investing resources on accessibility > back when Outspoken was the only screen access option for Apple products and > in those intervening years between Outspoken and VoiceOver where Apple had no > accessibility for their products. I agree Apple has a better accessibility > story right now than any other computer company, but this hasn't always been > the case. > > On 06/11/2013 03:08 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> Wow! >> >> a bit sensitive no? I didn't get a ounce of negativity from his post. Note: >> he said its his first time watching WWDC so, he's probably not aware that >> Apple seldom speaks about accessibility during their keynotes. And he asked >> for others thoughts. He offered no opinion of his own except, he thought IOS >> 7 sounded interesting. I wouldn't really put that down in the negative >> category. lol. I don't see how having no opinion, and asking for that of >> others is negative? Or, did I miss something in his post? >> >> Just saying. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rica...@appletothecore.info >> Twitter:@apple2thecore >> www.appletothecore.info >> >> On Jun 11, 2013, at 3:14 PM, Fred Olver <goodfo...@charter.net> wrote: >> >>> Shane, why concentrate bad energy on something which 1 we do not have any >>> control over and 2 we don't know what the future holds with regard to >>> accessibility. >>> >>> Is there some reason we should spend all this time until fall worrying >>> about this? Have you a crystal ball and have seen in to the future? Apple >>> was the first, or nearly the first computer-based company to care about >>> those of us with disabilities, is there some reason you think they might >>> change their mind about this. >>> >>> Sounds to me like it would make more sense to look forward optimistically >>> rather than look forward pessimistically, takes less energy and it is truly >>> alot more fun. >>> >>> Fred Olver >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shane clark" <hshanecl...@gmail.com> >>> To: <blindapp...@yahoogroups.com>; <viphone@googlegroups.com>; >>> <accessible-...@googlegroups.com> >>> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 2:02 PM >>> Subject: Apple Keynote >>> >>> >>>> Hi guys, >>>> Well yall, what'd you think of the presentation? I've Never saw one live, >>>> but I've been watching it on my Apple TV. What I've heard, it sounds like >>>> iOS 7 will be pretty interesting, but I didn't hear anything mentioned >>>> about accessibility... 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