Thank you Chris! It is appreciated and I'll look for your podcasts. Can you tell me where to find some and what they cover?
Regards, Wayne -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris H Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 2:37 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS 7 Tutorial No I agree. I love podcasts but can't be doing with the chit chat before the main part. Hence me trying the tutorials as books approach. When I do podcasts I just get on with it but that's just me. On 06/09/2013 01:02, Christopher Chaltain wrote: > I feel the same way about podcasts. I just don't usually hav the > patience to listen to a tutorial in a podcast. Even if you can speed > it up, you still have to skip through the introductory words, the chit > chat and so on. Plus if it covers a lot of topics, you have to fast > forward to get to the parts that you're interested in. I've usually > figured things out through trial and error before I get through the podcast. > > I'd much rather work through a soft copy document where I can review > the table of contents and jump right to the sections I'm interested in. > Furthermore, searching for a note after the fact is much less tedious > then looking through your podcasts to find the point you forgot. > > I'm not knocking podcasts. I listen to them myself, and I'll > occasionally listen to a tutorial via a podcast as well. It's just > that for me, it's not my preferred way to learn something or the first > thing I'll grab when I want to figure something new out. > > > On 09/05/2013 06:48 PM, Joseph FreeTech wrote: >> Hi Scott, >> >> Apple vis and this list will be my first stop once IOS7 is released! >> <Smile>. There is nothing better than cranking up the speed on an >> audio presentation and pausing when experimentation is needed as I >> follow along. >> At this point, and for me only, reading in Braille or Braille display >> is unnecessarily slow; it feels like using an abacus rather than a >> calculator. >> >> Joseph >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Scott Davert" <scottslistm...@gmail.com> >> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 4:40 PM >> Subject: Re: IOS 7 Tutorial >> >> >> I agree with those saying that it's all about personal preference. >> I'm here to tell you though that Applevis, and I'm sure others, have >> lots of free materials headed out the door when release time comes. >> Within >> 1 or 2 hours I'd say at most. But for something hopefully more >> professionally done, these are good resources as well. I know for my >> part, I get paid $0 for what I do and am fine with it. But it may not >> be the most pollished presentation. >> >> Scott >> >> On 9/5/13, Paul Ferrara <paul.ferr...@insightbb.com> wrote: >>> Christopher, I agree with you; I do not purchase these tutorials >>> often, but >>> >>> I am going to have to walk my wife through IOS 7 and quickly so this >>> time I >>> >>> decided to make the purchase. I am one of those who will read it, >>> digest it, >>> >>> and listen to some additional podcasts too, but it is definitely a >>> personal >>> >>> decision, no different than which twitter app, which barcode app, etc. >>> that >>> >>> someone uses. >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Christopher Chaltain >>> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 2:38 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: IOS 7 Tutorial >>> >>> I think this is a personal decision each person will have to make >>> for themselves. Some people may prefer having all of this >>> information at once and in one place rather than waiting for >>> podcasts to show up on various sites and wade through the back and >>> forth that will occur on different mailing lists. Some people may >>> prefer a reference and a manual format over a podcast format. IMHO, >>> this resource may or may not be worth paying for for some people, >>> but I don't think anyone can make this decision for anyone else. >>> >>> On 09/05/2013 08:30 AM, Fred Olver wrote: >>>> I agree with you, Scott, I can't see a need to spend money on a >>>> resource which most people don't use to it's full extent anyway. >>>> Besides, why pay for it when most of the information will be soon >>>> available for free. >>>> >>>> >>>> Fred Olver >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Author of Dealing with Vision Loss >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> have a look it just makes sense. >>>> >>>> http://www.dealingwithvisionloss.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Davert" >>>> <scottslistm...@gmail.com> >>>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 8:24 AM >>>> Subject: Re: IOS 7 Tutorial >>>> >>>> >>>> For those who wish to access this sort of material via audio, or >>>> who are jus interested in what's new with accessibility, I think I >>>> can publicly say that Applevis will be covering a lot of the >>>> VoiceOver stuff as soon as iOS 7 is released to the public. Not >>>> that these other resources aren't good, because I'm sure they will >>>> be, just throwing another one out there. >>>> >>>> Scott >>>> >>>> On 9/5/13, Kliphton <kliph...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> I think the one Jonathan Mosen has is much better, especially >>>>> since it covers IOS7 from a voice over user perspective. >>>>> >>>>> Kliphton Senior >>>>> (iMessage) kliph...@icloud.com - Email kliph...@gmail.com >>>>> (Twitter,Instagram,FourSquare&Skype) kliphton72 [Text only] >>>>> 914-820-2298 (Personal blog-read at your own risk!) >>>>> http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] >>>>> On Behalf Of Joseph FreeTech >>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 1:43 AM >>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: IOS 7 Tutorial >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> For those of you planning to upgrade to IOS 7 next month, here is >>>>> a link I just bumped into. It is a tutorial describing how to use >>>>> the new features of IOS 7. The tutorial sounds like an amazing buy >>>>> at $5. They take PayPal too! >>>>> >>>>> "Pre-Order Today: The Old Hat Guide To iPhone Accessibility, iOS7 >>>>> Edition >>>>> >>>>> In celebration of the upcoming release of iOS 7 we've updated our >>>>> Old Hat Guide to iPhone Accessibility to reflect the new changes >>>>> and are thrilled to offer it to you for $4.99 when you pre-order >>>>> on or before October 15! >>>>> >>>>> In this updated edition you will find lots more videos, iOS7 >>>>> specific tips and tricks and more! >>>>> >>>>> Don't waste another minute, follow the link below and get your >>>>> hands on a copy of The Old Hat Guide To iPhone Accessibility, iOS7 >>>>> Edition and pay only >>>>> $4.99 when you pre-order on or before October 15! >>>>> >>>>> Written as the "lost manual" for anyone and everyone wanting to >>>>> dig even deeper into iOS (or maybe even take the first steps), >>>>> "The Old Hat Guide To iPhone Accessibility, iOS7 Edition" follows >>>>> one of Fedora Outlier's own, Brie, as she shares her tears, fears >>>>> and triumphs as she goes from "scared to death" of her new Apple >>>>> tech, to a master and mascot for the empowerment and freedom which >>>>> comes with her shiny iDevice. >>>>> >>>>> In the updated version of this book, we'll use easy-to-follow >>>>> instructions, personal testimonies and video/audio demonstrations >>>>> to cover: >>>>> The accessibility settings and how to adjust them based on your >>>>> needs Walkthrough of the VoiceOver gestures and simple tricks for >>>>> mastering them Rundown of the apps included with your iOS device >>>>> Basic techniques on how to browse the web using Safari Managing >>>>> mail, contacts and calendars with your iDevice Advanced concepts >>>>> for iCloud, Siri and dictation, purchasing apps and much more" >>>>> >>>>> http://www.fedoraoutlier.com/order/ >>>>> >>>>> I hope I'm not offending anyone by posting this, but since we're >>>>> all posting information, apps, and tutorials regarding how to use >>>>> our IOS devices, the content seemed relevant. :) Also, don't >>>>> forget that there will be tons of tips and tricks shared by many >>>>> on this list once IOS 7 is released. >>>>> >>>>> Joseph >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>>>> Google >>>>> Group. >>>>> >>>>> Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. >>>>> >>>>> Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>>>> >>>>> Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing >>>>> viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> >>>>> Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing >>>>> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> >>>>> More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "VIPhone" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>> send 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