I don't have access to them for testing and training.  I only commented on the 
ones that I've personally held in my hand and taught clients to use.  I 
couldn't speculate at all on the eurobraille but would always be interested to 
see one if there is one in Toronto.

Best,

Erik Burggraaf
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On 2013-09-23, at 4:43 PM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:

> What about the EuroBraille Esys 12 and 20 Braille Displays?
> 
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> On 24 Sep 2013, at 6:15, erik burggraaf <e...@erik-burggraaf.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Alia,
>> 
>> You would be looking at the braille pen 12, the seika 16, the focus 14, and 
>> the refreshabraille 18.  The ones I have experience with are the focus 14, 
>> refreshabraille 18 and braillepen 12.
>> 
>> The refreshabraille is my personal favourite, having 18 baum style cells 
>> with routing, a full braille keyboard with compact buttons, and an easy 
>> control surface.  It has the longest running battery at 25 hours, and is the 
>> most durable and well-made of the three.  The most detracting thing I can 
>> find to say about it is that it doesn't have an executive case.
>> 
>> The runner up is the braille pen 12.  The main things this unit has going 
>> for it are price at about a grand, and a cheep but serviceable lanyard case. 
>>  It has 12 cheep cells with no routing, a small 6 hour battery, and a 
>> plastic braille keyboard.  It has flimsy connecters and doesn't even have a 
>> proper power switch.  If you like the feel of the cells though, and you need 
>> to save money, the pen isn't a terrible option.
>> 
>> Somewhere in the middle is the focus 14.  The focus is built of plastic and 
>> is a garish bright blue colour.  It's cells are constructed all in one piece 
>> and so the braille feels smoother than the other two.  It has good battery 
>> life.  The braille input keys are a bit fisher-price, but feel fine under 
>> the fingers.  It has a crazy control surface with rockers and wheels or 
>> possibly rockers that are called wheels, lots of different thumb keys across 
>> the front.  I find it just a bit busy myself, but what the heck.  There is 
>> also an executive case option for the focus which hides most of the 
>> eye-searing blue colour and gives you a lanyard.
>> 
>> If you have a chance to look at any of these before you buy them, that might 
>> be well worth your time.  Personally, I like the refreshabraille 18, but 
>> I've tried to use the braille pen 12 and it's nowhere near enough cells to 
>> be effective.  I feel like 18 is about the smallest any good braille user 
>> should consider going, and the refreshabraille is well build and well 
>> supported for a fair price.
>> 
>> Hope this helps,
>> 
>> Erik Burggraaf
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>> ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog
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>> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>> 
>> On 2013-09-22, at 2:20 PM, alia robinson <ali...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I was thinking 20 and under. thanks for your time. 
>>> 
>>> Alia
>>> On Sep 22, 2013, at 1:58 PM, erik burggraaf <e...@erik-burggraaf.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,  What size of display were you thinking?
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