Hi Pablo, I don't want to dispute that an iPhone 4 is slower with iOS 7, however, you described that it takes 22 seconds or whatever the number was for the Settings app to open and there is just no way that this is normal behavior. If your iPhone 4 is that slow and you plan to keep it around, then a complete restore to factory settings and setting it up as a new device is what I would do. It won't turn it into a 4S or a 5, but I would bet that it will improve. I can only say that my 4S runs perfectly well with iOS 7 and if I wasn't such a geek and in a position to treat myself to a new unlocked iPhone I would not upgrade. I am pretty sure I'll enjoy using Touch ID and I'll probably feel safer for using it, I know I'll be able to take nicer pictures and maybe OCR/object recognition will be better and I know it will be faster than my 4S, but I am also pretty sure that it's probably a good idea not to set my expectations too high when it comes to just normal day-to-day use like making phone calls, checking email and using routine apps I use a lot like Audible, my weather app, my Netatmo weather station app, Downcast etc. We don't even have LTE yet where I live so it's not even like I'll be awed by super high download speeds or a noticeable improvement with Skype or other VoIP apps due to the faster upload and download speed.
Regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 4:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Yesterday, after I read the Cara's email, I took my home phone, and I called apple again. Surprise. They know, tech support, accessibility, and customer care, that IOs 7 makes iPhone 4 very slow. So it is not a unique condition in one phone. As I said before, apple is receiving hundreds of calls every day reporting this problem. The guy of accessibility, told me that that problem is common in the iPhone 4 with IOs 7. Could be that for the people who use iPhone 4, with IOs 7, is because the use that they do is just calls and texting, but no a lot of things. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricardo Walker" <rwalker...@gmail.com> To: "viphone" <viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 3:34 PM Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi, I respectfully disagree. I think sluggishness on the iPhone 4 for Voiceover users is the norm not the exception. I think sighted people will get by just find but, Voiceover users will notice the pinch of 3 year old hardware much more. JMO. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 7, 2013, at 3:14 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: > I agree with Christopher that iOS 7 on a 4S is a very good experience > (apart from the few bugs we also had to deal with in iOS 5 and iOS 6). I > don't see any sluggishness. I can't speak for an iPhone 4 except that I > know 4 people and I mean I know them personally and spoke with them about > it who are sighted and still use the iPhone 4 and all of them say iOS 7 > works well on their iPhone 4. I think if somebody has serious issues with > sluggishness that this is not normal behavior and they should restore the > phone using iTunes and set it up as a new phone. I know this is a bit of > work, but the few times I had issues with my 4 some years ago and my 4S > doing that fixed everything quite nicely. I also expect that when iOS 7.1 > comes out many bugs and issues will just go away just as they always have. > > Regards, > Sieghard > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of glazingfr...@gmail.com > Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 10:15 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. > > Another problem with iOS 7 update to iPhone 4/s. It makes the entire > everything sluggish, even after disabling certain fancy features. It's > really not fair. > > On Oct 6, 2013, at 6:57 PM, "Gary Petraccaro" <garypet...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Now that you mention it, my phone when charging is locked. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ierne > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 7:12 AM > Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. > > Well this issue changes by the day. Even on 1% battery, without charger, > my iPhone 4S is trying to download iOS7.02. So contrary to what David C. > has stated, it looks as if the charger is now irrelevant. Which is odd, > because I was able to stop the download a few days ago by disconnecting > the charger, so something has changed. My tests also suggest that the > unit downloads the update whether locked or not. So it seems the only way > to stop this download now is to turn WiFi off. 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