Hi Sandy, If the battery drain on your 4S is so great then you probably have an app somewhere which causes that. Battery on my 4S is at least as good and probably a bit better with iOS 7. Also, Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast did a test with an iPhone 4 which he upgraded to iOS 7 and an iPhone 4S which he hadn't upgraded. He charged both devices up to 100%, he removed all apps from the app switcher and I can't remember if he said whether Bluetooth was on, but in any case, both phones had the same things turned on and so on. He then let the phones sit there locked and not really using them and he found that after a few days the battery on the iPhone 4 with iOS 7 was still above 70% and the 4S with iOS 6 was at I think 22%.
Spotting what causes battery drain can be tough, you almost have to do a complete restore to factory settings and set up the phone as new, then without putting anything on it in terms of apps see if the battery drain problem has gone away. If it has, then put on one or 2 apps at a time and each time make sure you use said apps and observe the battery. It's a long process, but just about the only way to do this. Regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sandratomkins Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 3:34 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: VO not holding focus. Hi again, A year ago, I had planned to sell my old iPhone 4 when I got my new 4s. However, because I use these devices as my computer. Reading books, doing crosswords, searching the net, email and all that stuff, I decided to hold on to the old phone to share out the battery power. I decided not to update the 4 to ios7, it has, of course, downloaded, but is sitting waiting for me to give the go ahead. Well, having started life as an ios7 fan, and I do still like many of the bells and whistles, I have to say that for many of my favourite activities, I am going back to my old 4. I mentioned, in the below message, that I can not longer do the Guardian Cryptic Crossword on my 4s with 7. Well, I just took a look on the 4 and what do you think, I can do the CW just as I always could. So, this is definitely a 7 bug for VO and it is, as far as I can judge, something that affects many applications and website functions. Finally, I have turned off all the relevant settings that will drain the battery on my 44s running 7, and still find that the battery drains at an alarming rate! pity 'tis true, but until these issues are addressed, I shall be using my old 4 for the forseeable future. Sandy. Sent from my iPhone > On 16 Oct 2013, at 10:58, Sandratomkins <sandratomk...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > HI, > > I think there is a genuine problem, using ios7 on my iPhone 4s. For example, one of my pleasures in life is to do the Cryptic Crossword in the Gardian, most days: until now, I have been able to do this using the online app that is used on the website of the paper together with vo. However, this has become increasingly flaky. This morning, it seems, that I cannot do it at all! I don't undrstand why this should have got worse, but it does eem to have done so. I have performed a reset, the one with the power and home buttons, but this hasn't fixed anything. > > Also, when sending a message, such as this one, I type vip into the "to" field and am offered the address for this list, but once havingt selected it, especially, when using my BT keyboard, I cannot move away from that field, I have to touch the screen to get vo to focus anew and then I can use the arrow keys or flick to find the edit field for the subject line. > > I know that people have mentioned the problems with focusing, here on this list before, I just wanted to say that I am still finding this, after having played with the latest update since the first day it came out. I wanted to give it time to see what was a bug and what was user error, and I have to say that this is definitely not user error. Neither do I think it a bug for non vo users,, so it is unlikely to be addressed by apple, unless we make them aware of it. However, I am always loath to submit a suspected bug before I have assured myself that others are also experiencing the same thing. So, is anyone else have problems with vo holding focus? > > TIA, Sandy. > > Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. 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