Hi Alan, I, first of all, don't particularly like to be told that I was dishonest and that I lied. The fact is that I would have had to leave without purchasing the phone because there is no way I could have afforded the $82 a month plan that went with it. The other fact is that other companies were offering a very similar plan much cheaper and, even though I really didn't want to, I would have had to go. I don't see where your comment comes from that I had no intention of leaving anyway because I would have had to. The word threaten was spot on and it will be again in two years if they continue to charge such high prices when prices are going down everywhere. In comparison to the US, we have been paying outrageous prices for years and that is only because they could and that is changing. The fact is that the CRTC put down some new rules that prevents them from taking advantage of people and they are trying to even out things by raising prices when they should be going down.
So, in the future, I would much appreciate you sticking to the topic and not making yourself the judge of list members' morals. Ron & Danvers -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 12:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: considering updating from a 4s to a 5s Katey, The volume problem doesn't just happen with the 5s. My wife has the same problem on the 5. Also I've not had the problem with the finger print reader that others are having. So I'm not sure what is causing it. I think that since you made the decision to upgrade you will be happy with it. On 10/30/13, Alan Paganelli <alanandsuza...@earthlink.net> wrote: > I think you can only get away with that only so long and isn't that > just a little dishonest because you know you have no intension of > leaving. I just > > ask them will you give me a better price. If they value your business > they'll give it to you and no need to lie. I did that with Sprint for > over > > ten years. I would hear things like let me check with my supervisor, > or hold on a minute, let me talk to the boss. > ------- > > Regards, > > Alan > > Go Chicago Bears in 2013! > > Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now!!!!! > Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything. > > Please click on: > http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ > There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances > played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format > formerly on my > > website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron Pelletier" <ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca> > To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 4:43 PM > Subject: RE: considering updating from a 4s to a 5s > > >> Hi Sieghard >> >> Do you have Bell at your end of the country? >> >> The reason why I ask is that I got a 2-year contract with my iPhone >> 5s that is what they call a customer retention contract. All you >> have to tell them is that you are planning on going elsewhere and >> they are good at offering their lowest price. >> >> I get unlimited calling in Canada and the US, unlimited text in >> Canada and the US, 3 gigs of data, call display, and a basic voice >> mail which is enough for me even though it will only take 3 messages. >> I usually check my messages quite often and don't really need more >> than that. Unlike you, I >> >> am >> not in business. I am retired and, the fourth person can call me back. >> (grin) The customer retention plan goes for $55 a month with my IP 5S. >> Of >> course, I had to pay $329 for the 32 gig phone which is $299 in the US. >> I >> guess, in two years, I'll threaten them to leave and go elsewhere and >> see what they have to offer. I got this plan because of my threat to >> leave when I have been with them for 19 years. I was the longest >> time customer the manager had seen in his store and, that is a >> downtown store. >> >> Ron & Danvers >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel >> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 6:18 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: considering updating from a 4s to a 5s >> >> Hi Katey, >> >> Yes, this seems to be universal and there is no good fix. Apparently >> resetting all settings fixes it until you accidently go below 35% again. >> Let's hope Apple will fix this properly in the next update, I suggest >> you write to accessibil...@apple.com and add your voice to those who >> have already written. >> >> By the way, AT&T and other carriers who offer these annual upgrades >> are totally hosing people. You would be much better off trying to >> find a MVNO where you pay $30 a month less and to buy an unlocked >> phone outright from Apple. I know in the States they don't offer them >> right away, but you should be able to get one soon. I am in Canada >> and I now pay just over $50 for unlimited phone calls in Canada, >> unlimited texts including Canada and the States and 2 Gb of data, >> also call display and voice mail, visual voice mail costs me an extra >> $2. Getting the same from one of the large carriers would cost me a >> good $30 a month more, so over 24 months the math is simple, approx >> $700 to $750. Add to that the cost of whichever iPhone you get and >> you would actually save a bit buying it at full price and you would >> not have a contract, if I find something better or maybe there is >> another promo at Christmas I can just sign up for it. >> >> Regards, >> Sieghard >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >> Behalf Of Katey Glass >> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 2:30 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: considering updating from a 4s to a 5s >> >> Thanks all, I decided to go ahead, as my contract was up -- I went to >> AT&T and hopefully I should get it this weekend, as they were out of >> stock. >> >> I also went with their new program "Next" so I'm paying (over time) >> for the phone and this allows me to be able to get a new phone next >> year if I want. >> >> >> Of course, if I don't like it for whatever reason I can always return >> it and go back to my 4s. >> >> I will admit that I turned on VO on the 5s they had on display, and I >> put volume in the roter and I tried turnning up the volume to 100% >> and it would only go to 90%. Then I went below 35% and I wasn't able >> to get above that! >> >> >> Does this effect everyone? How do you fix this? I know easy is to >> not use the volume in the roter! Any other ideas? >> >> Katey >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Oct 29, 2013, at 12:40 PM, Marianne Denning >>> <maria...@denningweb.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> I upgraded only because my contract was up. I don't see that much >>> difference. I like SIRI better on the 5s so I guess that is a >>> matter of opinion. I agree that either way is fine. I have not >>> tried the fingerprint feature so cannot comment on that. >>> >>>> On 10/29/13, Chris H <christopher...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Katie I really think if you are happy with your 4s stick with it. >>>> Don't just upgrade because it's the latest and greatest. I say do >>>> whatever's best for you. I have a 4s and love it and don't intend >>>> to >> upgrade. >>>> >>>> E-mail Facebook and iMessage >>>> christopher...@gmail.com >>>> >>>>> On 29/10/2013 14:00, Katey Glass wrote: >>>>> Hello All, >>>>> >>>>> I've heard some of the problems some of you have had with the >>>>> iPhone 5s, namely if you turn the volume in the rotor lower than >>>>> 35% it won't go higher and of course some fingerprint reader issues. >>>>> >>>>> Does this effect everyone? Do you regret updating? Since the >>>>> last iOS update my 4s seems more stable, no hypersensitivity >>>>> issues and the phone after it rings stays in the ear piece. >>>>> >>>>> I realize the iOS will definately be faster, so what do you think? >>>>> >>>>> Katey >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>>> Google Group. >>>> >>>> Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. >>>> >>>> Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>>> >>>> Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing >>>> viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing >>>> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> >>>> More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "VIPhone" group. >>>> To 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