Many apps want your location that you would assume don't need your location.
Corey Cook Facebook: corey.coo...@gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Apple boy Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 5:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Battery draining Sorry but why would Dropbox want your location anyway! Regards Chris Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof! On 16/03/2014 20:54, David Chittenden wrote: > After reading your message, I went in to settings, general, background with fresh, and turned it back on. I then check each out to determine which ones will keep in location services on. The surprising one for me is dropbox. When I turned Dropbox off, location services disappeared from my status bar. > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: dchitten...@gmail.com > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 17 Mar 2014, at 9:44, Katey Glass <katey...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Good Afternoon All, >> >> I just wanted to let you know that this location services "bug" of staying on constantly doesn't just effect us VoiceOver users. In fact, It hadn't affected me (a VO user) but did affect my fiance who's not a VO user. >> >> I first went to Privacy> Location services (I turned on VO to do this BTW) >> >> I noticed that not only was FourSquare on, but it said it was currently using his current location despite the fact it wasn't in his app switcher. So I turned off the phone and back on and location services was still in the status line. >> >> I did a hard boot, holding the power button & the home button to no avail. >> >> So I googled location services constantly running and found the following forum >> >> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5984935 >> >> There it told me to go to the following: >> >> You can either turn off background refresh of GPS altogether or turn off the individual apps that use GPS all the time like google maps, Foursquare, or Facebook. They will still be able to use GPS when you open them, but will not keep the GPS running in the background when the app is closed. >> For some reason, after I updated to 7.1, this was activated and had all the apps updating in the background even when they were closed. >> >> Now I have no problems. GPS and location services only open when I open the associated app. >> >> This seems to fix it, I turned off FourSquare as directed above and suddenly the location services icon only shows up when FourSquare is launched as it does on my phone, but when FS is taken out of the app switcher the location Services goes off in the status line. >> >> Both my fiance and I have iPhone 5s and are both running iOS 7.1. >> >> I hope this helps someone out there. >> >> Katey >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Mar 16, 2014, at 3:56 PM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> No, any app that is running in the foreground which needs location services, automatically turns on GPS. This just keeps apps from monitoring when they are not open in the foreground. >>> >>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On 17 Mar 2014, at 8:44, "Andy Baracco" <w...@socal.rr.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> But if you do this, won't that render any app that needs location services, such as a GPS app useless? >>>> >>>> Andy >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- From: David Chittenden >>>> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:04 AM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: Battery draining >>>> >>>> The only way I am able to get location services to disappear from the status bar is to completely disable background app refresh. I attempted it again last night with the same result after a reboot and a warm reset. >>>> >>>> Go to settings, general, background app refresh. >>>> >>>> Again, this appears to only affect VO users, so expect it to take more time before the error is resolved. Apple only rushes fixes for critical situations that affect significant numbers of users, and VO users are less than 1% of the user base. Every email to >>>> accessibil...@apple.com >>>> helps because more emails about the same issue means they know more people have the problem, so they will increase the resources directed toward fixing the problem. >>>> >>>> As for those who complain that Apple should fix it now, please remember back to the wonderful days of the extremely expensive specialised note-taker. It usually took the manufacturer between six months and a year between updates, and we always had to live with the problem until then, if the problem was even fixed. Oh, and let's not forget, some devices could not be upgraded without sending them back to the manufacturer. Finally, the annual upgrade fee was usually rather significant. >>>> >>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On 17 Mar 2014, at 1:53, Eileen Misrahi <eileen.misr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi David, >>>>> >>>>> The battery draining problem is getting worse, so yesterday evening before going out I charged the phone as much as I could and timed the drainage. It dropped 35% in a 3 1/2 hour period of time. Hence, I will place my complaint to Apple accessibility. The phone was completely drained and dead as a doorknob when I just got up. Where can I find the background refresh to turn that off? I didn't totally turn off location services, but turned it off in apps that I didn't need to have it on. What else do I need to do to save on battery? Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> Eileen >>>>>> On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:16 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I turned off all background refresh. It looks like location services gets switched on. This causes 15-20% battery drain per hour, and the GPS antenna is the only thing that is this power demanding. >>>>>> >>>>>> Also, it looks as though this is only happening to people running VO. None of my sighted friends are having the battery drain problem. >>>>>> >>>>>> So, turn off background app refresh. Also, very regularly close apps from the app switcher. Finally, email accessibility so they will hopefully soon test this and find the problem. >>>>>> >>>>>> One thing we do know, Apple does repair these sorts of problems when they figure out what is going on. Unfortunately, they usually don't role out an update when the problem is only with VO, so we will most likely be waiting a few months before the problem is resolved. >>>>>> >>>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>>>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >>>>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 16 Mar 2014, at 17:10, david gross <david.dgro...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> I am using an iPhone for S. I wrote previously while I'm Wi-Fi and streaming radio I am using 16% battery per hour. I called Apple tonight they have me doing iCloud restore. It made it worse I'm now using 20% per hour. I am curious what other folks are finding in a similar situation. Apple is suggesting a new restore from the computer. I do not want to do this. 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