Patty, if you would like me to be on the phone with you and Time-Warner, I would be willing to do that. But write me off list as I don't want to provide a phone number here.
Sent from my iPhone > On May 23, 2014, at 10:25 AM, Dillon Collier <dilloncollie...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 23, 2014, at 9:14 AM, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Patty, you may need to speak with more than one representative. I would not >> be bashful about asking to speak with someone else if you can't get >> assistance. I would like to believe there is a solution here. Good luck. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On May 23, 2014, at 9:41 AM, Patti Johnson <pattigj1...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> I'm on the phone with TW now who doesnt' seem to ha ve a clue, grin. >>> However, I am getting a si ghted friend to come over ina while and maybe we >>> an figure this out. I did learn I can use the cable remote to turn the >>> power of the tv off and on. >>> Thanks, >>> Patti >>> >>>> On 5/23/2014 9:31 AM, Les Kriegler wrote: >>>> Patty, I don't know. This is why I think you need to speak with a >>>> representative you can explain your exact set up to the individual and see >>>> if you can work something out. I would also suggest that you have cited >>>> assistance available so if you try some things, you can see if it's >>>> working the way it should before you try to do it on your own. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On May 23, 2014, at 9:22 AM, Patti Johnson <pattigj1...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi. I would like to try this, I ha ve tw as well. >>>>> However I have a digital box, and use my tv remote to power on the set. >>>>> So would this idea work with a digital box? >>>>> Patti >>>>> >>>>>> On 5/23/2014 9:09 AM, Les Kriegler wrote: >>>>>> Hi Mark, Patty and Interested Others, >>>>>> >>>>>> Mark, your suggestion is an excellent one. I'll offer another option >>>>>> Patty for you to consider. I had the exact same problem of switching >>>>>> sources to go from regular TV to the Apple TV. I knew the sequence, but >>>>>> it didn't always take and of course, there was no audible feedback, I >>>>>> just didn't always hear VoiceOver when Apple TV was supposed to have >>>>>> started. I stumbled across a solution by going to my cable provider's >>>>>> tech support department, Time Warner in my case. After the rep >>>>>> understood the issue, we worked out a system whereby I have much more >>>>>> reliable results. A lot depends on how your remotes were programmed. I >>>>>> use my Time Warner remote to power on our TV, I then use the TV remote >>>>>> which remains always on since I get no audible feedback when it is off >>>>>> or on. I then move down to the source, HDMI1 and press select. Apple >>>>>> TV loads and I can then use the Apple TV remote as usual. The nice >>>>>> thing is that when I wish to go back to regular TV, I just press one >>>>>> button on my TV >>>>>> remote and I have the last channel I was watching, sound and all. As I >>>>>> stated, this was worked out with a tech support rep at Time Warner, just >>>>>> substitute your cable provider. Anyway, just something to try before >>>>>> you go out and purchase anything. Good luck. >>>>>> >>>>>> Les >>>>>>> On May 23, 2014, at 4:00 AM, "M. Taylor" <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello Patti, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've only just tuned into this thread but it sounds like you've been >>>>>>> given >>>>>>> some excellent help. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You know, we, as technology consumers, take so many things for granted >>>>>>> these days. For example, I have my Apple TV connected to my big-screen >>>>>>> television along with a DVD player, a digital cable box receiver, etc. >>>>>>> And, >>>>>>> when I want to switch from watching Cable to the Apple TV, I use the >>>>>>> television's input selector. I am fortunate enough to enjoy a level of >>>>>>> residual vision that allows me to do this comfortably. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As I began reading this thread I asked myself what I would do if I lost >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> remainder of my vision and was totally blind. How would I reliably know >>>>>>> which input on the television was selected? This question returns me >>>>>>> to the >>>>>>> statement that we technology consumers take so many things for granted. >>>>>>> In >>>>>>> this instance, I am referring to the fact that many consumers assume >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> using the television's input selector is the only way to determine what >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> being streamed out to the television set. I guess this stems from the >>>>>>> law >>>>>>> of conservatism. That is, most of us want to accomplish more and more >>>>>>> tasks >>>>>>> while using less and less hardware. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This explains the ever increasing popularity of the universal remote >>>>>>> control >>>>>>> versus device-specific remote controls, among sighted people. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As a low vision consumer, I find that the more devices I attempt to >>>>>>> control >>>>>>> with an off-the-shelf universal remote, (1) generally requires more >>>>>>> effort >>>>>>> and (2) results in less accuracy. Consequently, I prefer to use >>>>>>> device-specific remote controls so that I can commit their various >>>>>>> layouts >>>>>>> to muscle memory. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I employ the same philosophy when purchasing office equipment. No >>>>>>> printer/fax/scanner combos here. Simply stated, my scanner can only >>>>>>> scan, >>>>>>> my printer only prints and my fax, well you get the idea. The primary >>>>>>> benefit to me is that, since I only need to send a fax once or twice >>>>>>> every >>>>>>> two months or so, the fax machine, being only a fax machine, has >>>>>>> remarkably >>>>>>> few buttons. Therefore, even if I don't use the fax very often, all >>>>>>> things >>>>>>> being equal, all I need to do is place a sheet of paper in the proper >>>>>>> place, >>>>>>> dial the telephone number, and press the big button on the lower left. >>>>>>> Get >>>>>>> it? If I were to use a combination printer/scanner/fax machine, unless >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> faxed on a regular basis, it is highly unlikely that I would remember >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> proper sequence of non-accessible hardware-panel soft-control commands >>>>>>> necessary to switch the device to fax mode. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What does any of this have to do with your new Apple TV? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Before all of these remarkably sophisticated digital televisions, with >>>>>>> their >>>>>>> multiple input channels, were introduced to the market, we old-timers, >>>>>>> who >>>>>>> wanted to view external media from remote devices such as VCR consoles, >>>>>>> gaming machines, etc through one television, used hardware video >>>>>>> switchboxes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In fact, I used video switchboxes for over ten years in order to >>>>>>> accomplish >>>>>>> what was then considered an amazing breakthrough in consumer >>>>>>> consumption. >>>>>>> The most relevant aspect of this for those of us who are either blind >>>>>>> or low >>>>>>> vision is that the switchboxes used good old-fashion hardware >>>>>>> push-buttons. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Allow me to digress for just a moment: >>>>>>> At one time, I used a video switchbox along with an audio switchbox in >>>>>>> combination with my television and stereo in combination with my Cable >>>>>>> box, >>>>>>> gaming console, and VCR recorder. The net result was that, among other >>>>>>> things, I could watch and record my video games while simultaneously >>>>>>> listening to the television broadcast of my choice, while at the same >>>>>>> time >>>>>>> recording a second show and seamlessly switch between the various audio >>>>>>> and/or video, inputs, independently, with the press of one or at most, >>>>>>> two >>>>>>> buttons. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Once, during that time, I had the cable company send someone out to my >>>>>>> house >>>>>>> in order to repair an outside connection. When the cable guy came into >>>>>>> my >>>>>>> living room and saw my setup, he offered to pay me to set his media >>>>>>> center >>>>>>> up the same way. My setup looked like something you'd find in a >>>>>>> Frankenstein movie but it worked and it was the envy of all who saw it, >>>>>>> back >>>>>>> then. I do so miss those days (smile). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Okay, getting back to the point. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Patti, should you choose, you can go to your local RadioShaq, or >>>>>>> someplace >>>>>>> similar, and purchase a digital video switchbox which will allow you to >>>>>>> use >>>>>>> hardware buttons to select the various input devices to your television >>>>>>> set, >>>>>>> including your Apple TV. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I hope you find this helpful. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mark >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>>>>> Behalf >>>>>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 9:42 PM >>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>>> Subject: RE: apple tv >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, each time you want to watch cable or Apple TV you will have to >>>>>>> select >>>>>>> the correct input. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>>>>> Behalf >>>>>>> Of Patti Johnson >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 9:07 PM >>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>>> Subject: Re: apple tv >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Oh rats. I didn't know all this, t hough I had heard earlier there >>>>>>> could be >>>>>>> changes, but then nothing happened, grin. >>>>>>> I bought it from Best Buy and it was a few dollars off the regular >>>>>>> price. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Well, I guess I'll just ha ve to have some one help me know which port >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> use and change the menu on the tv. >>>>>>> So does this mean I ha ve to change the menu back when I want to watch >>>>>>> my >>>>>>> Cable? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for everyone's help, I'm sure I'll get there with this thing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Patti >>>>>>>> On 5/22/2014 8:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi Patty, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As Larry already pointed out, the Apple TV gives you access to iTunes >>>>>>>> for renting and buying movies and if you are a Netflix subscriber then >>>>>>>> it's probably the nicest and most accessible way to consume Netflix >>>>>>>> content. It's also great for Youtube. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If your TV has multiple HDMI inputs you do have to be able to select >>>>>>>> these depending on what you want to watch. For example, let's assume >>>>>>>> you have your cable box connected to HDMI 1, a blueray DVD player to >>>>>>>> HDMI 2 and your Apple TV to HDMI 3, then you do have to be able to >>>>>>>> select your input on the TV depending on what you want to watch. Often >>>>>>>> this is done via a single button which invokes a menu on the TV and >>>>>>>> you then have to arrow to the input/source you want and select it. >>>>>>>> This may not be the most accessible thing to do, but you would have to >>>>>>>> maybe aska sighted friend or family member to help you with this. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now, as for the Apple TV, had you posted to the list that you were >>>>>>>> looking to get one I would have advised you to wait until Monday, June >>>>>>>> 2. This is when Apple will have it's world wide developer conference >>>>>>>> and when iOS 8 will be introduced. >>>>>>>> There are a lot of rumours according to which Apple may announce the >>>>>>>> next generation Apple TV during this event and that it will be much >>>>>>>> more advanced. There will most likely be an app store for the Apple TV >>>>>>>> which means you can get apps for various services and maybe games and >>>>>>>> so on and the talk is also that the Apple TV may very well become a >>>>>>>> complete replacement for your current set top box. >>>>>>>> There are also rumours that the Apple TV will have SIRI and that the >>>>>>>> remote may accept voice commands. >>>>>>>> Now, having said all this, they are of course rumours and I guess >>>>>>>> we'll find out in a week and a half if any of them are true. Did you >>>>>>>> purchase your Apple TV from Apple directly? If so you probably have >>>>>>>> time to return it should something really cool be announced. If not at >>>>>>>> least the apple TV only costs $99 which is not so much compared to >>>>>>>> what most other Apple devices cost. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> Sieghard >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>>>>>> Behalf Of Patti Johnson >>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 12:16 PM >>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: apple tv >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Oh! I see. I did get the hdmi cable or howevery ou spell it; I have >>>>>>>> 3 ports on the tv to choose from, not sure which to use though. >>>>>>>> I didn't think there was a battery in the remote but I got a sighed >>>>>>>> friend to look at that and she said there is. >>>>>>>> So given that there is one maybe I need to work with it some more. >>>>>>>> I am still a bit confused a bout how it works on the tv in conjunction >>>>>>>> with cable, does it overide the box, do I need to switch menus on the >>>>>>>> tv? >>>>>>>> Patti >>>>>>>>> On 5/22/2014 2:57 PM, Larry Lumpkin wrote: >>>>>>>>> Hi. You don't need the remote app at all. The apple tv has its own >>>>>>>> remote >>>>>>>>> which you can use to turn on voice over in the unit. I think it is >>>>>>>>> three clicks of the menu button but there is a good podcast on >>>>>>>>> techtalk >>>>>>>> describing >>>>>>>>> getting the apple tv going. You go into wi fi settings on the apple >>>>>>>>> tv >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> turn it on and connect your network. You connect the little apple tv >>>>>>>>> box >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> your tv using an HDMI cable and setting >>>>>>>>> Your tv to play through this port. If you want sound through a >>>>>>>>> stereo receiver/sound system, you need a tos link or fiber optic >>>>>>>>> cable. We love ours and use it all the time to listen to KDFC >>>>>>>>> classical in san Francisco from here in Texas, smile. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Patti Johnson >>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 1:02 PM >>>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>> Subject: apple tv >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello. I just got mine yesterday. I hooked it up but not sure I did >>>>>>>>> it correctly. >>>>>>>>> I downloaded the remote app and it said to sync with your computer, >>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>> when >>>>>>>>> I did I couldnt' find anywhere on the Itues after hooking my phone up >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> computer anything about the remote or Apple TV. >>>>>>>>> I know there is a code to put in, it gave me one then another; so I >>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>> put >>>>>>>>> the first one in when I figure how. I just want to know how this is >>>>>>>>> supposed to work in con junction with a Cable Digital box. >>>>>>>>> Do I turn the box off? >>>>>>>>> I looked forr something to read on the setup and just found so much >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> wade >>>>>>>>> through I didn't know where to look or start. >>>>>>>>> Any tips please? >>>>>>>>> Patti >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the viphone >>>>>>>> list. >>>>>>>>> All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you >>>>>>>>> have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>>>>>>>> you feel that >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >>>>>>>>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. 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