I'm curious, those of you who never use iTunes, how do you get 20G or 30G of music over into the Music app of the iPhone? It's true, I don't think I've ever used iTunes to transfer miscellaneous files over to my iPhone, sync contacts, transfer BARD books and the like, but I do use it to transfer and sync my music, update my iPhone and backup my iPhone. Obviously, I can update my iPhone over the air and back it up to iCloud, but I'm not sure how to get a whole bunch of Music over to the iPhone without using something like Match or a 3rd party cloud service.

On 6/3/2014 10:25 PM, Eileen Misrahi wrote:
Hi Robert,

I ditto what you had to say. The only reason I mentioned One Drive is that I am 
nearly out of space in Dropbox and I wanted to have another solution instead of 
paying for more space. I'm with you in that I haven't used iTunes to move files 
in and out of each platform in years. To me, I find it too clunky and either 
Dropbox or One Drive is much easier to use and more accessible. JMO.

Best,
Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 3, 2014, at 7:02 PM, Robert Stigile <rstig...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello All,
You should try Dropbox.
I love it..
I share files between my pc, i phone and my notetaker.
I create folders on dropbox, then I just drop my files in there, even my music, 
and it is available for any device that I choose to use.
I can not remember when I last used I-tunes for transferring files.
Good luck,


----- Original Message -----
From: Neal Ewers <neal.ew...@ravenswood.org>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 3, 2014 6:43 pm
Subject: RE: Accessibility Features in iOS8


I'm guessing the lack of a file system was not an oversight. How many people 
would stop using iTunes if they could move files back and forth from their 
device to their computer or other devices? I'm thinking Apple did this 
intentionally for this and other reasons to protect their proprietary 
personality. After trying to purchase DropBox, which would have gotten them a 
lot closer to making file transfers easier, they are now about to offer their 
own version of a DropBox like system. It's not necessarily a bad thing. It's 
just an Apple way of doing things. But I don't think a company like Apple with 
all its brain power would have simply forgotten to include a file system.

Neal

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher J Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 8:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessibility Features in iOS8

I'm not sure iCloud Drive would satisfy those people who want to be able to 
access their iPhone like a thumb drive. iCloud Drive would still only work on 
an app by app basis. You couldn't copy your music over in the folder structure 
you want, unless the Music app supported iCloud Drive and then 5G won't go very 
far.

I too would like this feature myself, i.e. accessing the underlying folder and 
file structure of the iPhone, but this isn't an oversight on Apple's part. It's 
part of the design of the iPhone. I'd be surprised if Apple were to change this 
any time soon, and for me at least, it just became part of the decision making 
process. I'm getting an easier to use, more accessible and more secure device 
at the cost of being able to access the underlying file structure of the iPhone.
On 6/3/2014 7:16 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
Well, iOS devices are not thumb drives, and I doubt you will ever be able to 
use one as such without a third-party app of some kind. That said, if an app 
integrates the upcoming iCloud Drive option, you will have basically what you 
are seeking, on an app-by-app basis. For example, say you edit a PDF in a Mac 
app. you can drop it anywhere in your iCloud Drive, then use some app on iOS to 
browse to and open that file. If Voice Dream were to support iCloud Drive, 
imagine dumping zipped Daisy books into the drive, then opening them in VDR. I 
hope I'm making sense.
On Jun 3, 2014, at 8:13 PM, Tom Lange <lang...@gmail.com> wrote:



I would really like the ability to do file and folder management and to be able 
to transfer files of all types from my PC or laptop to my iPhone as if it were 
an external drive.  I  resent having to use iTunes for any file/folder 
management task and would dearly love to tell Apple to take iTunes and shove it 
way up where the sun don't shine.

Sent from my iPhone



On Jun 3, 2014, at 9:08 AM, "RobH." <bobs...@googlemail.com> wrote:

File management: I know there are apps that do it, so sure,  why Apple don't
provide something at system level has always bugged me.  I have used the
apps, but having such a fundamental feature built-in, would be a monumental
and long-overdue benefit.

JMO, RobH.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Arrigo" <n0...@charter.net>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: Accessibility Features in iOS8


Certainly, the ability to have other keyboards system wide is a great
improvement. There wre 2 things I was hoping for that it appears we
will not be getting. First, the ability to install other voices and use
them system wide. Each person has their own voice preferences, but at
this point, any new voices that are installed can only be used with one
application. The other feature I wish we would have gotten is file
management. As far as I know, I O S is the only platform where copying
and moving files is very difficult.
Original message:


Hello,



I just watched the keynote and the one thing I was hoping for, does not
appear to be coming to iOS 8.  Hopefully, I'm wrong but I fear not.



I would truly love to be able to organize the threads in the Messages app;
you know, be able to create folders so I can save important messages.  All
I
saw in the keynote was the ability to name threads in group messages.
Again, I'm hoping I'm wrong and they will bring this feature to iOS 8 but
...



Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Christopher Hallsworth
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 1:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessibility Features in iOS8



No just the Fall. If it's like previous years mid September.



Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu



On 03/06/2014 08:58, Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy wrote:
Did anyone give a precise date for the release of ios8?



Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
Sent from my iPhone



On Jun 3, 2014, at 9:56, "RobH." <bobs...@googlemail.com> wrote:



It will be interesting to see just how many make the leap from iOs 6.*
straight up to 8.*.



Rh.
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 2:19 AM
Subject: Accessibility Features in iOS8




Hi all,
I just wanted to let everyone know the major new iOS8 accessibility
features we know so far. This is from the Keynote -- I don't even have
the beta, so I can't break an NDA.



* Better Zoom
* Touch ID and a countdown timer as ways to exit Assistive Touch
* multi-device support for compatible hearing aids
* the Alex voice from OS X (possibly for Siri, or VO, we don't know
for
sure)
* six-key braille input on-screen (no clue what this will look like)
* third-party keyboard support for the whole system, and Fleksy as
said on Twitter that it will be among the first to take advantage of
this. Yes, Fleksy will soon be available at any point in iOS when a
keyboard appears, from Mail to the App store to, well, anywhere!



That's all I can think of for now, but between those and the standard
iOS8 features, this is shaping up to be a very, very exciting release!



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