For your information, Here in Ireland and also in the UK, possibly also in Europe, we can use pay-as-you-go cards in our iPhones. This means, for me, that I can choose between paying five euros and €20 a month for varying amounts of Internet/text capacity. So, for example, if I am using Wi-Fi for most of my connectivity, I can easily make do is paying just five euros a month and still have a lot of talk time texting and Internet access while out and about.
Just my thoughts, Sandy Sent from my iPhone > On 5 Jun 2014, at 08:51, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote: > > The point about a data plan is a point some in the blind community have been > complaining about ever since the accessible iPhone 3GS was released. Some > people do not wish to have a data plan, but still want an iPhone for > everything it can do. AT&T would not sell an iPhone on contract without a > data plan, and the unsubsidised price of the iPhone is quite high. > > Personally, I have not heard this complaint for a couple years now, so forgot > about it. SmartPhones require data plans in order to fully function. Oh, and > the same people, when they could get the carriers to remove the data plan, > tended to complain because many of those desired features were then crippled. > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: dchitten...@gmail.com > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 5 Jun 2014, at 17:31, don bishop <donb...@emissives.com> wrote: >> >> The first thing that jumped right out at me was his statement that apple >> does not offer a data plan and you need one to get on the internet. >> Doesn't he know that dataplans are controled by your phone carrier? Also >> has he ever heard of wifi? >> >> Simply shocking from someone who should know better. >> Yes, he's been around for a very long time and was head of the nfb >> technology user's group. Don't know if still is or not. >> Din >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Neal Ewers <neal.ew...@ravenswood.org> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Date: Wednesday, June 4, 2014 10:13 pm >> Subject: RE: NFB June Braille Monitor/Article on the iPhone >> >>> >>> >>> Curtis Chong the author of this article has been around for some time. It >>> would have been interesting if the article had been written by someone >>> younger. >>> >>> Neal >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >>> Of Teresa Cochran >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 11:19 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: NFB June Braille Monitor/Article on the iPhone >>> >>> Um. Where to start? Well, if you don't want a smart phone, don't get one. If >>> you don't want to pay for a data plan, get an iPod Touch, or an iPad without >>> a data plan. What are those, you say? Hmmm. As for the virtual keyboards >>> they're not as fast for anyone as a regular keyboard. How fast was the old >>> method of using the teeny keys on a "real" phone keyboard or even the numpad >>> keys for typing letters? Not very. And why not use Siri to call a number? >>> What is Siri? Hmmm. >>> >>> I will say that I have come across folks at my local blind center who >>> receive iPhones and haven't the slightest idea how to operate them. A >>> well-meaning person might have given it as a gift, but they ask me why they >>> can't do things more simply. Maybe for some, a bit more one-on-one attention >>> would have been a good idea. >>> >>> having said this, I think this article is more than a tad condescending, if >>> addressed to most blind folks out there. >>> >>> Teresa >>> >>> "The golden age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete graham >>> >>> On Jun 4, 2014, at 8:52 PM, 'David Goldfield' via VIPhone >>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Has anyone read the June Braille Monitor? there is an article covering >>> the supposed pros and cons of the iPhone. I have to admit that it would be >>> very difficult for me to come up with a list of ten things which are "not >>> good" about the iPhone but this article supposedly did just that. I plan to >>> write a detailed blog post in the coming week with my responses to the ten >>> objections but I'll just say that it's one of the most irresponsible pieces >>> of journalism I've ever read from that magazine. Please, understand that >>> this is not meant as a bash about the NFB vs any other organization or even >>> a criticism of the Monitor. However, the piece infuriated me because the >>> NFB is a highly influential organization and many of its members and readers >>> of the Monitor will take the article seriously just because it comes from a >>> nationally recognized blindness organization. My fear is that many people >>> may read this article and will be convinced to not buy an iPhone due to >>> things which the article claims are "not good" about the device. >>>> -- >>>> Feel free to visit my new Web site http://www.DavidGoldfield.info Feel >>> free to visit my LinkedIn profile >>> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/david-goldfield/12/929/573 Visit my blog >>> http://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com Follow me on Twitter >>> http://www.twitter.com/davidgoldfield David Goldfield, Founder and Peer >>> Coordinator Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind and Visually >>> Impaired >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the viphone >>> list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have >>> any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel >>> that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. 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