Hi all,

One of the major battery hogs is Wi-Fi. You'd be surprised the amount of 
days you'll go when Wi-Fi is disabled.
Yes, sometimes an inconvenience, but the life of your battery is not 
determined by time, it is determined by amount of full charge/discharge 
cycles.
In other words, if your iDevice goes through the charge/discharge process 
daily, and if you change how you use your device to conserve battery life to 
2 or 3 days, then you will double or triple your device's overall lifespan.
Its been said that in general, using a lithium-ion battery, one has about 
500 charge/discharge cycles before battery no longer holds a strong charge.
The cool thing about iPhone users is that within a couple of seconds one can 
turn on and turn off Wi-Fi using Siri.

Joseph

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cristóbal" <crismuno...@gmail.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 3:02 PM
Subject: RE: NFB June Braille Monitor/Article on the iPhone


I too am an every-overnight charger of my phone. I do have certain things
disabled and the screen brightness turned to zero, but still, I blaze
through the charge and often use the Mophie Juice Pack towards the end of
the day if I'm out and about. Really though, it's not that big a deal. You
can only disable so many things before you begin to kill the purpose of the
phone and its features.
Besides, it's not like it's a huge inconvenience to plug it in to charge.
-----Original Message-----
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Of Gmail
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 2:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: NFB June Braille Monitor/Article on the iPhone

Really? I usually have to plug my phone in every night. Admittedly, this
could be the iOS 7 dictation bug going on, but that can't account for all of
it.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Jun 5, 2014, at 11:49 AM, "Neal Ewers" <neal.ew...@ravenswood.org>
wrote:
>
> As I recall, he says that one has to recharge their battery every day.
> I, for one, have never had to do that. True, I don't play 24 hours of
> music or use the phone or other applications 12 to 15 hours a day,
> just to pick some random numbers, but I can often go for days without
> recharging. It's this kind of blanket statement that makes me wonder
> how much time he spent with his phone.
>
> Neal
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Teresa Cochran
> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 10:28 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: NFB June Braille Monitor/Article on the iPhone
>
> just to answer the question, though it's straying off-topic for this list:
> the update to the Samsung Haven and the Jitterbug are the only two
> feature phones i know of that are totally accessible.
>
> Teresa
>
> "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P.
> Feynman
>
> On Jun 5, 2014, at 1:40 AM, Christopher J Chaltain
> <chalt...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I assume David isn't talking about me specifically, but if so, this
> totally misrepresents the opinion I've stated and stated fairly recently.
>>
>> The fact of the matter is that a sighted person can buy a feature
>> phone
> without a data plan. They can still make calls, send text messages,
> keep track of personal information (like reminders, appointments,
> contacts and so on). I'm not sure a blind person has this option any
> more, and if they do, it's getting harder and harder to find. What are
> a blind person's option if they just want a feature phone and don't want a
smart phone?
>>
>> I'm not saying there aren't blind people who want something for
>> nothing,
> but why should blind people be any different than the general population.
> This isn't what I and others are asking for though. I've never said a
> blind person should be able to use all of the features of a smart
> phone and not have to purchase a data plan. I do think it's a valid
> point though the blind people do not have the feature phone option and
> the ability to use a cell phone without a data plan that sighted people
do.
>>
>>> On 6/5/2014 2:51 AM, David Chittenden wrote:
>>> The point about a data plan is a point some in the blind community
>>> have
> been complaining about ever since the accessible iPhone 3GS was released.
> Some people do not wish to have a data plan, but still want an iPhone
> for everything it can do. AT&T would not sell an iPhone on contract
> without a data plan, and the unsubsidised price of the iPhone is quite
high.
>>>
>>> Personally, I have not heard this complaint for a couple years now,
>>> so
> forgot about it. SmartPhones require data plans in order to fully
function.
> Oh, and the same people, when they could get the carriers to remove
> the data plan, tended to complain because many of those desired
> features were then crippled.
>>>
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On 5 Jun 2014, at 17:31, don bishop <donb...@emissives.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The first thing that jumped right out at me was his statement that
>>>> apple
> does not offer a data plan and you need one to get on the internet.
>>>> Doesn't he know that dataplans are controled by your phone carrier?
> Also has he ever heard of wifi?
>>>>
>>>> Simply shocking from someone who should know better.
>>>> Yes, he's been around for a very long time and was head of the nfb
> technology user's group.   Don't know if still is or not.
>>>> Din
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Neal Ewers <neal.ew...@ravenswood.org>
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Date: Wednesday, June 4, 2014 10:13 pm
>>>> Subject: RE: NFB June Braille Monitor/Article on the iPhone
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Curtis Chong the author of this article has been around for some
>>>>> time. It would have been interesting if the article had been
>>>>> written by someone younger.
>>>>>
>>>>> Neal
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 11:19 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: NFB June Braille Monitor/Article on the iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> Um. Where to start? Well, if you don't want a smart phone, don't
>>>>> get one. If you don't want to pay for a data plan, get an iPod
>>>>> Touch, or an iPad without a data plan. What are those, you say?
>>>>> Hmmm. As for the virtual keyboards they're not as fast for anyone
>>>>> as a regular keyboard. How fast was the old method of using the
>>>>> teeny keys on a "real" phone keyboard or even the numpad keys for
> typing letters? Not very. And why not use Siri to call a number?
>>>>> What is Siri? Hmmm.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will say that I have come across folks at my local blind center
>>>>> who receive iPhones and haven't the slightest idea how to operate
>>>>> them. A well-meaning person might have given it as a gift, but
>>>>> they ask me why they can't do things more simply. Maybe for some,
>>>>> a bit more one-on-one attention would have been a good idea.
>>>>>
>>>>> having said this, I think this article is more than a tad
>>>>> condescending, if addressed to most blind folks out there.
>>>>>
>>>>> Teresa
>>>>>
>>>>> "The golden age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete graham
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 4, 2014, at 8:52 PM, 'David Goldfield' via VIPhone
>>>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Has anyone read the June Braille Monitor?  there is an article
>>>>>> covering
>>>>> the supposed pros and cons of the iPhone.  I have to admit that it
>>>>> would be very difficult for me to come up with a list of ten
>>>>> things which are "not good" about the iPhone but this article
>>>>> supposedly did just that.  I plan to write a detailed blog post in
>>>>> the coming week with my responses to the ten objections but I'll
>>>>> just say that it's one of the most irresponsible pieces of
>>>>> journalism I've ever read from that magazine.  Please, understand
>>>>> that this is not meant as a bash about the NFB vs any other
>>>>> organization or even a criticism of the Monitor.  However, the
>>>>> piece infuriated me because the NFB is a highly influential
>>>>> organization and many of its members and readers of the Monitor
>>>>> will take the article seriously just because it comes from a
>>>>> nationally recognized blindness organization.  My fear is that
>>>>> many people may read this article and
> will be convinced to not buy an iPhone due to things which the article
> claims are "not good" about the device.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Feel free to visit my new Web site http://www.DavidGoldfield.info
>>>>>> Feel
>>>>> free to visit my LinkedIn profile
>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/david-goldfield/12/929/573 Visit my
>>>>> blog http://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com Follow me on Twitter
>>>>> http://www.twitter.com/davidgoldfield David Goldfield, Founder and
>>>>> Peer Coordinator Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind
>>>>> and Visually Impaired
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