Hi Alex, You may be right in the case of Blind Square, but I'm not sure
you're right about Google Maps, or Seeing Eye GPS though because this would
make the particular apps expensive to use, and therefore not at all viable
for the majority of the blind public.
I would think that only the GPS components use out and about features, and
not necessarily the map data, but I may be wrong.
-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Hall
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 11:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: just one question
That is true of many in-car systems, yes. The apps for iOS work differently,
though. Some do let you download map files ahead of time, such as Google
Maps, but others need a constant or semi-constant data connection, including
Blindsquare and (if I'm not mistaken) Seeing Eye GPS.
On Jun 9, 2014, at 11:34 PM, Victor Gouveia <victor.gouv...@rogers.com>
wrote:
Alex Said:
Second, the iPad with an external receiver will do GPS, but most
mapping/navigation apps need to pull map data from some server or other,
necessitating a data connection.
***
No, even standard GPS devices purchased for drivers don't pull map data
from servers out and about, they are usually updated manually over the
internet via a Wi-Fi connection, or, if you have a data connection,
depending on how large the map update file is.
Either way, the GPS receiver is just to ping off a satellite or tower to
help the GPS locate you, the maps are a separate feature.
Just thought I'd point that out.
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-----Original Message----- From: Alex Hall
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 11:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: just one question
First, if you don't need the cellular option but you still want the
portability, go for an iPod Touch. It has the power of an iPhone5 (well,
slightly better actually) but is also wifi-only, while being the size of
an iPhone instead of a larger iPad Mini or full iPad.
Second, the iPad with an external receiver will do GPS, but most
mapping/navigation apps need to pull map data from some server or other,
necessitating a data connection. So, if phone calls, texting (not with
iMessage), anywhere internet access for navigation and other apps, and GPS
is your thing, do the iPhone. Otherwise, choose between the iPad and iPod
Touch, depending on how much you want to spend and how large a device you
want. Also remember that we have the iPad Mini in the mix. Good luck!
<smile>
On Jun 9, 2014, at 10:13 PM, Victor Gouveia <victor.gouv...@rogers.com>
wrote:
Hi Peter,
I also think it would be worth noting that unless you get the iPad with
3G support, the iPad doesn't make you pay a certain amount per month, as
it only works on Wi-Fi, and not a data connection through a carrier.
So, if you take this into account when doing the calculations...
an iPad and iPhone are roughly the same price, keep in mind that I'm
referring to the Wi-Fi version of the iPad, not the 3G version.
The costs are roughly the same, give or take a hundred bucks or so, but
when getting the iPhone, your carrier will charge you anywhere from 30 to
50 dollars per month, so your paying 30 to 50 dollars per month in
addition to the iPhone's already inflated price.
Even if you get it on a contract, most carriers will insist you get the
iPhone on a 2 year contract, so you can expect to pay anywhere from 199
to 350 for the phone, plus another 30 to 50 dollars per month for
twenty-four months, and you're looking at paying an extra 700 to 1200
dollars on top of what you paid for the phone.
In addition to this, some carriers will charge you to unlock your phone
at the end of your contract, and this could cost you another 30 to 75
dollars, at which point, you can now do what your iPad has done all
along.
In any case, if you're budget conscious, then the iPad would be the way
to go, at which point, if you want to use the iPad as a navigation
device, you'll have to spend a little more for the external GPS receiver,
but even then, it still comes out cheaper than the iPhone.
Keep in mind that the above are based on what I know about the major
carriers in Canada and the US, but I doubt the pricing is much different
in other areas.
Victor Gouveia
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-----Original Message----- From: Alex Hall
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 5:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: just one question
This question comes up from time to time, so the archives will have a lot
of information. Basically, though, the pros of an iPad over an iPhone
are:
* better battery life
* better sound, sometimes, and that is rather subjective
* larger screen, for low-vision users using magnification
* larger screen, showing more content for apps and webpages, which can
sometimes be useful to the blind
That's all I can think of. Of course, the pros of the iPhone or iPod
Touch outweigh the pros of the larger iPad, at least for me, but each
person's situation is different.
On Jun 6, 2014, at 5:32 PM, Peter Logue <bouncingoffbutt...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi guys,
Okay here's the question. If the Ipad and the Iphone both do exactly the
same thing, only for the fact that the Iphone makes phone calls... why
would
anyone not choose the Iphone.
I'm torn, but leaning to the Iphone, even though it has a contract. But
dollar for dollar pound for pound. The iphone seems the better item.
Any thoughts?
Peter
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