That's understood, but how about a little diplomacy? Just saying. DJ
-----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of todd patkus Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2014 2:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: the best way for A blind person to take A picture with the iPhone five Josh, This is not a goal but more like making others more aware of what the DB community needs. I will let Rich speak. Thank you, Rich. > ----- Original Message ----- >From: Josh Gregory <familyguyj...@gmail.com >To: "viphone@googlegroups.com" <viphone@googlegroups.com Date sent: >Sun, 15 Jun 2014 14:38:46 -0400 >Subject: Re: the best way for A blind person to take A picture with the iPhone five >Actually, it does if you're trying to get a solution to the problem. If someone did have a solution, I'm sure they would've offered it. His goal may have been to see if others had a solution. >Sent from my iPhone >> On Jun 15, 2014, at 2:34 PM, Joseph FreeTech <joseph.freet...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Since you've already written it, the message below is the information you >> should send the Apple disabilities team so they have a better understanding >> of your needs. Sending the information to this list accomplishes nothing in >> terms of your goals. >> Joseph >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "todd patkus" <tpat...@shellworld.net >> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com >> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2014 11:01 AM >> Subject: RE: the best way for A blind person to take A picture with the >> iPhone five >> Sieghard, >> I have no fat problem with your question. >> Nope, I cannot hear anything, including speech, but I do have >> some hearing. Depending upon the pitch. There are a few certain >> sounds I can hear. Audiologically speaking, I am entitled as >> "profoundly deaf". Yes, there are DB folks who have hearing. I >> never wear a hearing aid. They are totally useless. I am not >> trained for that. I am happy to be DB like Rich McGann. >> So, in this particular case, I depend heavily on VIBRATIONS. >> Good thing I have that sense to feel vibrations! >> If that option is unavailable for the DB, I could shoot them with >> a suggestion. That would be very helpful for me and other DB! >> Thank you. >> Todd >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca >>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Date sent: Sun, 15 Jun 2014 10:33:08 -0700 >>> Subject: RE: the best way for A blind person to take A picture >> with the iPhone five >>> Hi Todd, >>> No, as far as I know there is no vibration or an option to enable >> vibration >>> to indicate this. You could write to accessibil...@apple.com and >> suggest >>> that they look at including this. >>> If you don't mind me asking, but can you hear nothing at all? I >> am asking >>> because as you probably know the iPhone does integrate nicely >> with some of >>> the hearing aid brands out there or maybe some deafblind people >> who have >>> some hearing might be able to use a headset at a loud volume to >> still hear >>> Voiceover. >>> Using a wired headset such as the Apple Earpods also serves as a >> convenient >>> way to take the picture without jiggling the phone since the >> volume up >>> button on the headset remote will take the photo or, if you have >> video >>> enabled, the Play/Pause button on the headset will start/stop >> video >>> recording. >>> Regards, >>> Sieghard >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] >> On Behalf >>> Of todd patkus >>> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2014 10:21 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: the best way for A blind person to take A picture >> with the >>> iPhone five >>> All, >>> You always talk too much about Voiceover but WAIT! If a >> deafblind needs to >>> pose a picture of someone or an object, how can he know the >> camera is >>> properly focused despite the VO? I remind y'all not all >> deafblind can hear >>> speech! Therefore, is there a way those deafblind to know the >> focus is >>> performed? >>> Vibration? >>> I am sure some deafblind folks will come in front of y'all and >> say >>> something! >>> Thank you. >>> Todd >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Donna <merma...@bellsouth.net >>>> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com" <viphone@googlegroups.com Date >> sent: >>>> Wed, 11 Jun 2014 21:39:57 -0400 >>>> Subject: Re: the best way for A blind person to take A picture >>> with the iPhone five >>>> Hi Casey >>>>> In most cases voiceover will announce when the camera has >>> focused. Voiceover also announce how many faces that the camera >> has >>> detected. >>>> Here is what I have found that helps me take pretty good >>> pictures. >>>> 1 line up your body so that you are directly in front of the >>> object or person. >>>> 2. Stand about 6 feet away from the object or person. >>>> 4. I have found that if the top edge of the phone is level with >>> the top of my forehead, I usually get the person from head to >>> toes. Of course, this depends on how tall the person is. A tall >>> person, you might just get from head to knees, unless you step >>> away a few more steps. >>>> 5. Being toddlers and young children are short, it is best when >>> taking pictures of little ones to kneel down about 6 feet away >>> from them when taking pictures. This way the child isn't having >>> to look up at you, thus this makes the person look more naturally >>> posed. >>>> Click away and have a sighted person to give you pointers on how >>> to perfect your picture taking. >>>> Donna >>>>> Hi I have the iPhone 5. >>>>> And how do you get it to tell you when taking A picture that you >>> are in focus or not for A good picture? >>>>> If you are totally blind. >>>>> Also if you would like to take A picture of someone how can you >>> make sure you get A good shot of there face like A sighted person >>> would? >>>>> -- >>>>> Casey >>>>> -- >>>>> The following information is important for all members of the >>> viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by >>> default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running >>> of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is >>> inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly >>> rather than posting on the list itself. 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