Joseph, There are multiple examples. My nieces husband is an environmental consultant. He just purchased a $40,000 drone to do surveys for oil companies and so on. The software he uses which processes the huge amounts of data collected by the drone runs for hours even on a top-of-the line computer with I7 processor and 32 Gb of RAM. Without 64 bit architecture this would probably be not even possible.
Also, if you work on very large Excel files (over 2 Gb in size) you can only do this with the 64 Bit version of Office. As I said in my previous email, these are often not applications the average user has to be concerned about, but that doesn't mean the improvement is not there. Regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joseph FreeTech Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 8:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid Yeah, but I specified software. Also name the titles--surely you must have some. Like I said, there might be a few here and there--maybe in gaming, but overall nothing major. So, actually, yes, I'm right, the potential is there, but there has not been wide adoption. Joseph ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Chittenden" <dchitten...@gmail.com> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 8:07 PM Subject: Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid Untrue, the 64 bit architecture has considerably increased responsiveness of high-end graphics rich and intense applications in computing. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone > On 30 Jun 2014, at 14:27, Joseph FreeTech <joseph.freet...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > The 64bit architecture was also suppose to revolutionize software on > Windows, but now years later, it never really did happen. > > Joseph > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alex Hall" <mehg...@icloud.com> > To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 7:10 PM > Subject: Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid > > > The 64-bit arcetechture isn't noticeable right now, but it is what allows > for advances and more powerful apps. For instance, it is how Apple's new > graphics engine is able to be so amazing, and it is, as I understand it, > what will let the Alex voice work correctly on iOS. As iOS8 comes out and > gets updated, you will start to see more that the A7 (that is, 64-bit) > processors and beyond can do which older devices cannot. > > Scrolling works for me; sometimes, if a finger doesn't move enough to > register or if I accidentally have one finger too close to the edge and it > doesn't register, then yes, the gesture fails. I consider it just an > artifact of the way the input system works, though, and I'd challenge > anyone, sighted or not, to find a touch interpretation system meant to be > used all the time that always works perfectly. I briefly tried Android, > and > those crazy corner gestures were hard to get right, for instance. > > The language switching is iOS seeing another language and switching to it. > Maybe an email subject or Facebook post is written in that language, or > maybe it's English but came from a foreign computer that tagged the string > as another language even though it isn't. Either way, it's iOS doing its > best to present foreign languages in their proper voices, since it assumes > that this is better than presenting everything in English and letting you > try to figure out what an English pronunciation of a language you speak is > trying to say. I'd love there to be a toggle somewhere to turn this off, > since, as you said, it can get annoying if languages are improperly tagged > or detected, but it's not a bug per se. >> On Jun 29, 2014, at 9:59 PM, Eric Brinkman <eric.brinkm...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Alex, does the 64-bit processor offer much improvement that is >> noticeable from a user's perspective? >> >> As far as bugs go, scrolling seems to have become more erratic >> recently. When I swipe up with three fingers, sometimes it scrolls, >> but sometimes it just tells me what rows are being shown without >> scrolling. This can make it difficult to navigate large playlists, >> particularly in Spotify which I use more than the native music app at >> this point. Also, occasionally VO will randomly start speaking as >> though text were written in a different language. I used to think >> this was a Facebook bug, but it happened in Mail once last week while >> reading the subject of a message from Linked In. Jaws used to do this >> randomly on certain websites as well. For GPS I mainly use Seeing Eye >> at this point. I used to use Navigon and BlindSquare but prefer to >> have all functions in one app. >> >> I am looking forward to having Alex in IOS 8 though and am sure the >> voices on Droid screen-readers won't be as good. >> >>> On 6/29/14, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> If you're thinking about an Android option, go ahead and also consider >>> the Samsung models. Samsung has made some nice accessibility additions >>> to what's available on stock Android. You might want to check out some >>> Android specific mailing lists first as well. You'll be getting the >>> latest on Android. >>> >>>> On 06/29/2014 08:24 PM, Joanne Chua wrote: >>>> Also, anything that using tracking mode, doesn't matter it is a >>>> pedometor, weather app, social media, or any kind of gps apps will >>>> sucks up the phone battory like a hawk. >>>> >>>> For those that insist on switching to Androy OS, just make sure that >>>> you get the phones/tabs that comes with google Androy stock. Whith >>>> means, at this stage, either the nexus 4/5, nexus tabs, or the >>>> motorola motor E or motor G. Other than that, you will have some >>>> accessibility problems. Just the matter of either the problems can be >>>> resolve, or some phones, the problems can't be resolve. >>>> Also, although the look of numbers of processor available on an androy >>>> phone, doesn't always tell the story of the processor itself. You can >>>> have a cheap octa core (8 core) processor on an androy phone, but >>>> running on the speed of the dual processor. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 30/06/2014, Kelly Pierce <kellyt...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> I have found that if I force quit most of my apps on my iPhone 5, I >>>>> still have 97 percent of battery power when I check my >>>>> phone at about 1:00 p.m after leaving for work at 7:00. I leave the >>>>> mail, weather, messages, find my iPhone and local newspaper apps open >>>>> in the task manager. >>>>> Everything else is closed. I don't use my iPhone for navigation, audio >>>>> streaming, reading, music listening to music or other activities on my >>>>> way to work. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Kelly >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 6/29/14, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>>> Yes, exactly. Android is a good OS, and plenty of blind people make >>>>>> it >>>>>> work >>>>>> well for them, but switching just because your older phone is having >>>>>> battery >>>>>> problems makes little sense. Given all that iOS8 will bring, and >>>>>> given >>>>>> all >>>>>> the programming announcements at WWDC this year, and the advances the >>>>>> iPhone5S brought with it that everyone else is now copying >>>>>> (fingerprint >>>>>> authentication and 64-bit processors), I'm always amazed when people >>>>>> say >>>>>> Apple is declining,or not innovating, or in trouble. Wait for iOS8 >>>>>> and >>>>>> the >>>>>> iPhone6 and see if Android still looks like a better option. >>>>>> On Jun 29, 2014, at 9:01 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Alex, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You make a very good point about battery size in larger phones. >>>>>>> Apple >>>>>>> has >>>>>>> been slow I adopting a larger screen size, but we all know that the >>>>>>> iPhone >>>>>>> 6 will come in at least something like a 4.7 inch and maybe also a >>>>>>> 5.5 >>>>>>> inch version. In the past Apple has been accused of not innovating >>>>>>> any >>>>>>> more, but of course sticking a larger screen on a phone can hardly >>>>>>> be >>>>>>> called innovation. >>>>>>> Going bac to the issue of battery, the Galaxy S5 which has a 5.1 >>>>>>> inch >>>>>>> screen and is significantly larger than the iPhone 5S, has a 2800 >>>>>>> MAH >>>>>>> battery which is almost twice as big as that of the 5S. Yes, of >>>>>>> course >>>>>>> they get better battery life out of such a large battery and it's >>>>>>> unfortunate that you will inevitably find articles comparing the >>>>>>> iPhone >>>>>>> 5S >>>>>>> battery life with that of the Galaxy S5. Of course that would be >>>>>>> like >>>>>>> comparing 2 similar cars, one with a 20 Gallon tank and one with a >>>>>>> 40 >>>>>>> Gallon tank, of course you will be able to go further with the car >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> has a 40 Gallon tank, but being able to put more fuel in it doesn't >>>>>>> necessarily make it a better vehicle. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Sieghard >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>>>>> Behalf >>>>>>> Of Alex Hall >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 2:09 PM >>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to >>>>>>> Droid >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am having the same battery problems, also starting with iOS7. >>>>>>> However, >>>>>>> Apple ran a remote diagnostic on my phone when I called them, even >>>>>>> though >>>>>>> I didn't have Apple Care, and said that there is a hardware fault in >>>>>>> my >>>>>>> battery somewhere which is causing problems with fast draining. As >>>>>>> was >>>>>>> said, the battery is now one and a half years old and I use it >>>>>>> constantly, >>>>>>> so I'm not too surprised. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I, too, would take a long and hard look at Android before switching. >>>>>>> Maybe >>>>>>> rent a tablet for a couple weeks, or see what your carrier's return >>>>>>> policy >>>>>>> is. Facebook is not Apple's fault at all, and I'd be interested to >>>>>>> see >>>>>>> how >>>>>>> the same app performs on Android. also, remember that the iPhone6 >>>>>>> will >>>>>>> very probably have a larger screen, which means a larger battery. >>>>>>> Many >>>>>>> Android devices can offer longer battery lives simply because they >>>>>>> are >>>>>>> already bigger than the iPhone and so can sport more raw power to >>>>>>> use. >>>>>>> Finally, if battery drain is all in iOS, then who's to say iOS8 >>>>>>> won't >>>>>>> make >>>>>>> a huge jump in battery? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Obviously, the choice is yours. The bottom line is that Android is >>>>>>> very >>>>>>> different and has its own set of challenges, bugs, and shortcomings >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> need to know about before you start relying on it full time. No >>>>>>> company >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> perfect, and of course you know what Apple's problems are. Just be >>>>>>> sure >>>>>>> you aren't trading those issues for an even bigger set with Android. >>>>>>> On Jun 29, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Eric, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I doubt a top of the line Android phone will give you better battery >>>>>>> life. >>>>>>> I also would be interested to know what all these bugs in iOS 7 are >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> course the fact that you are having issues with Facebook is not >>>>>>> Apple's >>>>>>> fault. >>>>>>> As for dictation, I don't encounter the problems you have with SIRI >>>>>>> putting in the word comma when I want it to put in the punctuation. >>>>>>> According to what they said in the keynote dictation in iOS 8 will >>>>>>> be >>>>>>> much >>>>>>> more responsive and while there are some Android fanboys on this >>>>>>> list, >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> would highly recommend that you find a way to try Android before you >>>>>>> commit to a high-end Android phone on a 2-year contract. >>>>>>> I can't diagnose your battery issue, but having poor cell coverage >>>>>>> definitely will suck battery as the phone constantly tries to >>>>>>> connect >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> communicate with the towers.My nephew works in a very remote rural >>>>>>> area >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> northern British Columbia and his is the same experience; however, >>>>>>> if >>>>>>> he >>>>>>> is in town with a good signal his battery is just fine. Then you >>>>>>> also >>>>>>> have >>>>>>> to keep in mind that if you got your iPhone 5 when it was released >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> the battery is now one and a half years old and any rechargeable >>>>>>> battery >>>>>>> degrades with time. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Sieghard >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>>>>> Behalf >>>>>>> Of Eric Brinkman >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:58 PM >>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>>> Subject: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As someone who uses GPS and browses the web regularly, the battery >>>>>>> life >>>>>>> on >>>>>>> my iPhone 5 with the latest IOS has become completely unacceptable. >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> have read MacWorld's guide to improving battery life and followed >>>>>>> their >>>>>>> suggestions, but I am still lucky to have over 30% charge after a >>>>>>> trip >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> NYC. If I don't put the phone into airplane mode while at work or >>>>>>> bring >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> charger to the office, I will have 20% or less by the time I leave. >>>>>>> And >>>>>>> i >>>>>>> don't even use my phone at work. >>>>>>> There's just poor cell coverage in my office, but this wasn't a >>>>>>> problem >>>>>>> until recent months. I think it's due to the walls, as I am on >>>>>>> Verizon >>>>>>> and have no issues when outside. If I stay with IOS, I will buy a >>>>>>> juice >>>>>>> pack when I upgrade to the iPhone 6 this fall. But there are so >>>>>>> many >>>>>>> bugs >>>>>>> in the latest IOS that I wonder whether I might be better off on >>>>>>> Android. >>>>>>> The dictation feature seems to have gotten less smart since IOS 7.1, >>>>>>> often >>>>>>> typing the word comma when I want a comma punctuation indicator. >>>>>>> There >>>>>>> are so many bugs with Facebook and VO that I could easily spend five >>>>>>> paragraphs detailing them. Also, I really don't think I should need >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> buy a juice pack, as I didn't have much of an issue with the battery >>>>>>> life >>>>>>> prior to IOS 7. These issues are the result of Apple rushing >>>>>>> products >>>>>>> out >>>>>>> the door before they are ready, something that's been crippling the >>>>>>> company ever since the IOS >>>>>>> 6 Maps debacle. Had you asked me a year ago, I would've said I'll >>>>>>> never >>>>>>> switch to Droid, but now I'm not so sure. Does anyone on this list >>>>>>> know >>>>>>> what the situation is on Droid concerning GPS and accessibility? >>>>>>> The >>>>>>> last >>>>>>> time I heard, good screen-reading software was available but I >>>>>>> wasn't >>>>>>> sure >>>>>>> about GPS. I have heard that now Google's dictation functionality >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> many ways smarter than Siri. >>>>>>> Is battery life far superior on the top-of-the-line Droid phones as >>>>>>> well? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks in advance. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Eric >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the >>>>>>> viphone >>>>>>> list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>>>>> owners >>>>>>> or >>>>>>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. 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