Firstly, no need to get nasty. This has so far been a civilized discussion until you came along with the post below.
I don't have to read your article because I already know what I know. You too may also benefit from studying even a little stats and probability. You're also making the very same mistake many listers make which takes a good discussion and runs it off the rails. You have lost track of my point, "The potential is there for the 64bit architecture, but like Windows computers, you will not see what has been speculated to possibly happen." When people buy lottery tickets, they are told that the $1 purchase holds the probability to deliver millions, but it only holds for a single person. Again, "potential" and reality are very different. Joseph ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Hall" <mehg...@icloud.com> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 10:26 PM Subject: Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid Did you read the article I sent? The potential is there, and a simple re-compile of processor-heavy apps took advantage of that potential. If you want blind-specific examples, what about the power of the audio processing? Or the 5S camera, which relies on the 64-bit processor to do advanced, real-time photo processing? That's directly tied to OCR and object detection. What about the heat output and power input improvements, which affect everyone? Disagree if you want, but at least do the research first. On Jun 30, 2014, at 1:11 AM, Joseph FreeTech <joseph.freet...@gmail.com> wrote: > Like I said, the potential is there, it's just that the 64bit architecture > is not commonly used to it's peak performance--especially for blind > computer > users. > > Joseph > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <siegh...@live.ca> > To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 9:03 PM > Subject: RE: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid > > > Hi David, > > Correct, also 64 Bit architecture has removed the 3 Gb RAM limit, without > it > a PC with 8, 16 or 32 Gb of RAM would not be possible. Of course most > "average" PC users don't notice this or benefit from it a lot and as a > blind > user high-end gaming, intense graphics oriented applications and so on are > not typically used. > > Regards, > Sieghard > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of David Chittenden > Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 8:08 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid > > Untrue, the 64 bit architecture has considerably increased responsiveness > of > high-end graphics rich and intense applications in computing. > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: dchitten...@gmail.com > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 30 Jun 2014, at 14:27, Joseph FreeTech <joseph.freet...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> The 64bit architecture was also suppose to revolutionize software on >> Windows, but now years later, it never really did happen. >> >> Joseph >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Alex Hall" <mehg...@icloud.com> >> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 7:10 PM >> Subject: Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to >> Droid >> >> >> The 64-bit arcetechture isn't noticeable right now, but it is what >> allows for advances and more powerful apps. For instance, it is how >> Apple's new graphics engine is able to be so amazing, and it is, as I >> understand it, what will let the Alex voice work correctly on iOS. As >> iOS8 comes out and gets updated, you will start to see more that the >> A7 (that is, 64-bit) processors and beyond can do which older devices > cannot. >> >> Scrolling works for me; sometimes, if a finger doesn't move enough to >> register or if I accidentally have one finger too close to the edge >> and it doesn't register, then yes, the gesture fails. I consider it >> just an artifact of the way the input system works, though, and I'd >> challenge anyone, sighted or not, to find a touch interpretation >> system meant to be used all the time that always works perfectly. I >> briefly tried Android, and those crazy corner gestures were hard to get > right, for instance. >> >> The language switching is iOS seeing another language and switching to >> it. > >> Maybe an email subject or Facebook post is written in that language, >> or maybe it's English but came from a foreign computer that tagged the >> string as another language even though it isn't. Either way, it's iOS >> doing its best to present foreign languages in their proper voices, >> since it assumes that this is better than presenting everything in >> English and letting you try to figure out what an English >> pronunciation of a language you speak is trying to say. I'd love there >> to be a toggle somewhere to turn this off, since, as you said, it can >> get annoying if languages are improperly tagged or detected, but it's not > a bug per se. >>> On Jun 29, 2014, at 9:59 PM, Eric Brinkman <eric.brinkm...@gmail.com> > wrote: >>> >>> Alex, does the 64-bit processor offer much improvement that is >>> noticeable from a user's perspective? >>> >>> As far as bugs go, scrolling seems to have become more erratic >>> recently. When I swipe up with three fingers, sometimes it scrolls, >>> but sometimes it just tells me what rows are being shown without >>> scrolling. This can make it difficult to navigate large playlists, >>> particularly in Spotify which I use more than the native music app at >>> this point. Also, occasionally VO will randomly start speaking as >>> though text were written in a different language. I used to think >>> this was a Facebook bug, but it happened in Mail once last week while >>> reading the subject of a message from Linked In. Jaws used to do >>> this randomly on certain websites as well. For GPS I mainly use >>> Seeing Eye at this point. I used to use Navigon and BlindSquare but >>> prefer to have all functions in one app. >>> >>> I am looking forward to having Alex in IOS 8 though and am sure the >>> voices on Droid screen-readers won't be as good. >>> >>>> On 6/29/14, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> If you're thinking about an Android option, go ahead and also >>>> consider the Samsung models. Samsung has made some nice >>>> accessibility additions to what's available on stock Android. You >>>> might want to check out some Android specific mailing lists first as >>>> well. You'll be getting the latest on Android. >>>> >>>>> On 06/29/2014 08:24 PM, Joanne Chua wrote: >>>>> Also, anything that using tracking mode, doesn't matter it is a >>>>> pedometor, weather app, social media, or any kind of gps apps will >>>>> sucks up the phone battory like a hawk. >>>>> >>>>> For those that insist on switching to Androy OS, just make sure >>>>> that you get the phones/tabs that comes with google Androy stock. >>>>> Whith means, at this stage, either the nexus 4/5, nexus tabs, or >>>>> the motorola motor E or motor G. Other than that, you will have >>>>> some accessibility problems. Just the matter of either the problems >>>>> can be resolve, or some phones, the problems can't be resolve. >>>>> Also, although the look of numbers of processor available on an >>>>> androy phone, doesn't always tell the story of the processor >>>>> itself. You can have a cheap octa core (8 core) processor on an >>>>> androy phone, but running on the speed of the dual processor. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 30/06/2014, Kelly Pierce <kellyt...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> I have found that if I force quit most of my apps on my iPhone 5, >>>>>> I still have 97 percent of battery power when I check my phone at >>>>>> about 1:00 p.m after leaving for work at 7:00. I leave the mail, >>>>>> weather, messages, find my iPhone and local newspaper apps open in >>>>>> the task manager. >>>>>> Everything else is closed. I don't use my iPhone for navigation, >>>>>> audio streaming, reading, music listening to music or other >>>>>> activities on my way to work. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Kelly >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 6/29/14, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>>>> Yes, exactly. Android is a good OS, and plenty of blind people >>>>>>> make it work well for them, but switching just because your older >>>>>>> phone is having battery problems makes little sense. Given all >>>>>>> that iOS8 will bring, and given all the programming announcements >>>>>>> at WWDC this year, and the advances the iPhone5S brought with it >>>>>>> that everyone else is now copying (fingerprint authentication and >>>>>>> 64-bit processors), I'm always amazed when people say Apple is >>>>>>> declining,or not innovating, or in trouble. Wait for iOS8 and the >>>>>>> iPhone6 and see if Android still looks like a better option. >>>>>>> On Jun 29, 2014, at 9:01 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Alex, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You make a very good point about battery size in larger phones. >>>>>>>> Apple has been slow I adopting a larger screen size, but we all >>>>>>>> know that the iPhone >>>>>>>> 6 will come in at least something like a 4.7 inch and maybe also >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> 5.5 >>>>>>>> inch version. In the past Apple has been accused of not >>>>>>>> innovating any more, but of course sticking a larger screen on a >>>>>>>> phone can hardly be called innovation. >>>>>>>> Going bac to the issue of battery, the Galaxy S5 which has a 5.1 >>>>>>>> inch screen and is significantly larger than the iPhone 5S, has >>>>>>>> a 2800 MAH battery which is almost twice as big as that of the >>>>>>>> 5S. Yes, of course they get better battery life out of such a >>>>>>>> large battery and it's unfortunate that you will inevitably find >>>>>>>> articles comparing the iPhone 5S battery life with that of the >>>>>>>> Galaxy S5. Of course that would be like comparing 2 similar >>>>>>>> cars, one with a 20 Gallon tank and one with a 40 Gallon tank, >>>>>>>> of course you will be able to go further with the car that has a >>>>>>>> 40 Gallon tank, but being able to put more fuel in it doesn't >>>>>>>> necessarily make it a better vehicle. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> Sieghard >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] >>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Alex Hall >>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 2:09 PM >>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching >>>>>>>> to Droid >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am having the same battery problems, also starting with iOS7. >>>>>>>> However, >>>>>>>> Apple ran a remote diagnostic on my phone when I called them, >>>>>>>> even though I didn't have Apple Care, and said that there is a >>>>>>>> hardware fault in my battery somewhere which is causing problems >>>>>>>> with fast draining. As was said, the battery is now one and a >>>>>>>> half years old and I use it constantly, so I'm not too >>>>>>>> surprised. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I, too, would take a long and hard look at Android before >>>>>>>> switching. >>>>>>>> Maybe >>>>>>>> rent a tablet for a couple weeks, or see what your carrier's >>>>>>>> return policy is. Facebook is not Apple's fault at all, and I'd >>>>>>>> be interested to see how the same app performs on Android. also, >>>>>>>> remember that the iPhone6 will very probably have a larger >>>>>>>> screen, which means a larger battery. >>>>>>>> Many >>>>>>>> Android devices can offer longer battery lives simply because >>>>>>>> they are already bigger than the iPhone and so can sport more >>>>>>>> raw power to use. >>>>>>>> Finally, if battery drain is all in iOS, then who's to say iOS8 >>>>>>>> won't make a huge jump in battery? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Obviously, the choice is yours. The bottom line is that Android >>>>>>>> is very different and has its own set of challenges, bugs, and >>>>>>>> shortcomings you need to know about before you start relying on >>>>>>>> it full time. No company is perfect, and of course you know what >>>>>>>> Apple's problems are. Just be sure you aren't trading those >>>>>>>> issues for an even bigger set with Android. >>>>>>>> On Jun 29, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Eric, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I doubt a top of the line Android phone will give you better >>>>>>>> battery life. >>>>>>>> I also would be interested to know what all these bugs in iOS 7 >>>>>>>> are and of course the fact that you are having issues with >>>>>>>> Facebook is not Apple's fault. >>>>>>>> As for dictation, I don't encounter the problems you have with >>>>>>>> SIRI putting in the word comma when I want it to put in the > punctuation. >>>>>>>> According to what they said in the keynote dictation in iOS 8 >>>>>>>> will be much more responsive and while there are some Android >>>>>>>> fanboys on this list, I would highly recommend that you find a >>>>>>>> way to try Android before you commit to a high-end Android phone >>>>>>>> on a 2-year contract. >>>>>>>> I can't diagnose your battery issue, but having poor cell >>>>>>>> coverage definitely will suck battery as the phone constantly >>>>>>>> tries to connect and communicate with the towers.My nephew works >>>>>>>> in a very remote rural area in northern British Columbia and his >>>>>>>> is the same experience; however, if he is in town with a good >>>>>>>> signal his battery is just fine. Then you also have to keep in >>>>>>>> mind that if you got your iPhone 5 when it was released that the >>>>>>>> battery is now one and a half years old and any rechargeable >>>>>>>> battery degrades with time. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> Sieghard >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] >>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Eric Brinkman >>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:58 PM >>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> Subject: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to >>>>>>>> Droid >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As someone who uses GPS and browses the web regularly, the >>>>>>>> battery life on my iPhone 5 with the latest IOS has become >>>>>>>> completely unacceptable. >>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>> have read MacWorld's guide to improving battery life and >>>>>>>> followed their suggestions, but I am still lucky to have over >>>>>>>> 30% charge after a trip to NYC. If I don't put the phone into >>>>>>>> airplane mode while at work or bring a charger to the office, I >>>>>>>> will have 20% or less by the time I leave. >>>>>>>> And >>>>>>>> i >>>>>>>> don't even use my phone at work. >>>>>>>> There's just poor cell coverage in my office, but this wasn't a >>>>>>>> problem until recent months. I think it's due to the walls, as >>>>>>>> I am on Verizon and have no issues when outside. If I stay with >>>>>>>> IOS, I will buy a juice pack when I upgrade to the iPhone 6 this >>>>>>>> fall. But there are so many bugs in the latest IOS that I >>>>>>>> wonder whether I might be better off on Android. >>>>>>>> The dictation feature seems to have gotten less smart since IOS >>>>>>>> 7.1, often typing the word comma when I want a comma punctuation >>>>>>>> indicator. >>>>>>>> There >>>>>>>> are so many bugs with Facebook and VO that I could easily spend >>>>>>>> five paragraphs detailing them. Also, I really don't think I >>>>>>>> should need to buy a juice pack, as I didn't have much of an >>>>>>>> issue with the battery life prior to IOS 7. These issues are >>>>>>>> the result of Apple rushing products out the door before they >>>>>>>> are ready, something that's been crippling the company ever >>>>>>>> since the IOS >>>>>>>> 6 Maps debacle. Had you asked me a year ago, I would've said >>>>>>>> I'll never switch to Droid, but now I'm not so sure. Does >>>>>>>> anyone on this list know what the situation is on Droid >>>>>>>> concerning GPS and accessibility? The last time I heard, good >>>>>>>> screen-reading software was available but I wasn't sure about >>>>>>>> GPS. I have heard that now Google's dictation functionality is >>>>>>>> in many ways smarter than Siri. >>>>>>>> Is battery life far superior on the top-of-the-line Droid phones >>>>>>>> as well? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks in advance. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Eric >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the >>>>>>>> viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by >>>>>>>> default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running >>>>>>>> of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is >>>>>>>> inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly >>>>>>>> rather than posting on the list itself. 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