Hi Devin,
No OCR app or application on a PC which uses a scanner can read handwriting reliably. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Devin Prater Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 5:58 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: KNFB Reader App It better be able to read handwriting, large-print, any written printed text, and even braille. Devin Prater r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com <mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> On Jul 6, 2014, at 6:08 PM, Feliciano G <theblindman...@hotmail.com <mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com> > wrote: If the application can do well from about 20 feet, I assume that it would do very well from 6 to 10 inches away when scanning a document. I just hope that there will be a trial version that we can test before paying the full price. Other than that, I think many should give them a break until they release it. Then we can see for ourselves. Regards, Feliciano Twitter: @Theblindman12v www.twitter.com/theblindman12v <http://www.twitter.com/theblindman12v> Sent from the Super-iPhone On Jul 6, 2014, at 4:03 PM, "Alex Hall" <mehg...@icloud.com <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com> > wrote: I'd normally agree, and honestly I still don't know where I stand on this. One thing to consider, though, is the cost of development compared to market size. I'm not talking about just the app itself, but, as one person pointed out on Twitter, this app has some heavy-duty OCR behind it. That probably means commercially licensed OCR engines and other behind-the-scenes items whose cost we don't know about. Is $99 a lot for this? Yes, and I probably won't find it worth my own money. All I'm saying is that, given the technology involved, there may be hidden costs that make it a more reasonable price than it first appears. Maybe. On Jul 6, 2014, at 6:57 PM, 'David Goldfield' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote: One of the things I really like about Apple, iOS in particular, is that it has successfully allowed us to escape from the old business model of paying a lot of money for assistive products. No longer do we have to pay a high price to access our screens because Apple included a free access package. No longer do we have to pay a high price for OCR apps because sighted people, who use and require the same apps, only need to pay a few dollars for it and, therefore, so do we. In my opinion, and this is just my opinion, the marketing department of KNFB is doing us a tremendous disservice by trying to bring back the 1980's and 1990's business model of how assistive technology is distributed. Feel free to visit my new Web site http://www.DavidGoldfield.info <http://www.davidgoldfield.info/> Feel free to visit my LinkedIn profile http://www.linkedin.com/pub/david-goldfield/12/929/573 Visit my blog http://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com <http://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com/> Follow me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/davidgoldfield David Goldfield, Founder and Peer Coordinator Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind and Visually Impaired On 7/6/2014 6:50 PM, Alex Hall wrote: All I can say is: there better be a demo version. Offer ten scans, pop up alerts every minute, limit some functions. Somehow, though, they need to release a lite version. If I'm going to drop half the cost of a new iPod Touch on one app, I want to be absolutely sure it will meet my needs first. If they offer only the $99 app with no way of testing it, well, that's just a bad idea. On Jul 6, 2014, at 6:44 PM, Feliciano G <theblindman...@hotmail.com <mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com> > wrote: Other platform OCR applications cost over $200. This is not priced too high if it competes with the other OCR applications. I am curious on what it can really do. I hear it can OCR text from 20ft away. Regards, Feliciano Twitter: @Theblindman12v www.twitter.com/theblindman12v <http://www.twitter.com/theblindman12v> Sent from the Super-iPhone On Jul 6, 2014, at 3:36 PM, "'David Goldfield' via VIPhone" <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote: In my opinion, the price of this app, if it is indeed $99.00, is insanely high and it won't be on my phone for that price. However, ultimately the market, as it always does, will decide. I know some will purchase it at this price. If enough people don't, then the folks at KNFB will have to make some decisions about the price. If enough people buy it at $99.00, then the app will likely remain at that price for some time. Feel free to visit my new Web site http://www.DavidGoldfield.info <http://www.davidgoldfield.info/> Feel free to visit my LinkedIn profile http://www.linkedin.com/pub/david-goldfield/12/929/573 Visit my blog http://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com <http://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com/> Follow me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/davidgoldfield David Goldfield, Founder and Peer Coordinator Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind and Visually Impaired On 7/6/2014 6:32 PM, Anthony Vece wrote: These companies just don't get it. Most people like accessibility off the shelf. Sent from my iPhone 5s! On Jul 6, 2014, at 5:32 PM, "Betty Emmons" <bettycemm...@gmail.com <mailto:bettycemm...@gmail.com> > wrote: for that price it better do tha laundry, wash the dishes and clean the house. while I'm thinking of it maybe drive me where I want to go. Betty Emmons ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Turner <mailto:rich...@turner42.com> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 4:10 PM Subject: Re: KNFB Reader App If it was $30 I might consider it if other demos show equal results in speed and accuracy, but $99? They must be on some pretty amazing drugs to think people will pay that much for something that is only faster by a few seconds than apps like TextGrabber or Prizmo. Just my opinion. Richard "Common sense is in spite of, not as the result of education." - Victor Hugo Sent from my iPhone On Jul 6, 2014, at 12:04 PM, "Andy Baracco" <w...@socal.rr.com <mailto:w...@socal.rr.com> > wrote: It was announced that the KNFB Reader app for the iPhone will cost $99 and will be available by the end of August. Andy I'm not wearing a diaper, so don't try to change me. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. 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