I agree. And this is why I'm not preordering, or even ordering early, an iPhone 
6. These phones come with iOS 8 preloaded, so you'll be dealing with bugs until 
the iOS is upgraded.

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 2:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS8!!!

That's true, the difference here though, at least in my mind, is that 
this is coming from someone on the list who I think is pretty level 
headed. If I recall correctly, Sieghard was recommending people upgrade 
to IOS 7 when it came out because the advantages out weighed the 
annoyances and the different ways a few things worked. In this case, you 
have someone who I respect quite a bit on the list sounding the alarm. 
This gives me much more pause then the normal run of the mill complaints 
that come out whenever anything changes. I'll be looking forward to more 
information from Sieghard and others once IOS 8 is released and they 
aren't bound by the NDA they agreed to.

On 09/12/2014 01:41 PM, Alan Paganelli wrote:
> As I recall, when they came out with iOS 7 the same thing was said.  We
> all survived it!  I suspect we'll do the same with iOS 8! <grin>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Alan
>
> Go Chicago Bears in 2014!
>
> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!!!!!
> Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
>
> Please click on:
> HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
> the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on
> my website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <siegh...@live.ca>
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 11:50 PM
> Subject: RE: IOS8!!!
>
>
> I can't say too much because of the NDA I agreed to when I signed up for my
> developer account, but Pablo is wise to stay with iOS 7 for now, there will
> be a lot of "pissing and moaning" as you put It Ed, that I can guaranty. I
> can only advise those who like their phone to work very nicely and
> especially those who like to use their phone with a bluetooth keyboard a
> lot
> to maybe wait a bit, iOS 8 is probably one of the buggiest or maybe the
> buggiest release Apple has done.
>
> Take care,
> Sieghard
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Pinky
> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 4:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: IOS8!!!
>
> Hi Pablo,
> Come on and take a chance on IOS 8.  I like to hear you piss and moan. LOL
> Just kidding.
> Ed
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Alan Paganelli
> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 5:40 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS8!!!
>
> Oh Pablo it can't be that bad can it? LOL!
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Alan
>
> Go Chicago Bears in 2014!
>
> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!!!!!
> Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
>
> Please click on:
> HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
> the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
> website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pablo Morales" <pablomorale...@gmail.com>
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 3:36 PM
> Subject: RE: IOS8!!!
>
>
> Hmmm, maybe you are right.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Alan Paganelli
> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 12:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS8!!!
>
> Are you sure Pablo? LOL!  Your taking a huge risk here! LOL!
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Alan
>
> Go Chicago Bears in 2014!
>
> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!!!!!
> Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
>
> Please click on:
> HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
> the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
> website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pablo Morales" <pablomorale...@gmail.com>
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 3:48 PM
> Subject: RE: IOS8!!!
>
>
> Oh, yes. I learned the lesson. Maybe for June 2015 IOs 8  will be with no
> bugs, then I will install it in my phone.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of John Diakogeorgiou
> Sent: Tuesday, September 9, 2014 6:19 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS8!!!
>
> You heard correctly. Also! I beg everyone who has a problem with bugs to
> wait rather than installing the update and spending a lot of time
> criticizing Apple for such a bad update.
>
> On 9/9/14, Cheryl Homiak <cah4...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> I think I remember from today that it will be the 17th. But I heard a
>> lot today so I could be mistaken.
>>
>> --
>> Cheryl
>>
>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash!
>> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
>> His joy for my despairing tears!
>> And now, every day:
>> "This I call to mind,
>> and therefore I have hope:
>> The steadfast love of the Lord
>> never ceases;
>> his mercies never come to an end;
>> they are new every morning;
>> great is your faithfulness."
>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 9, 2014, at 4:52 PM, Anthony Vece <ajv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Everyone;
>>>
>>> Does anyone know when IOS8 will be available?
>>> I thought today was the day.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Anthony
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone 5s!
>>>
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