I think after all the overwhelming and I would say 95% or better positive feedback it is pretty safe to say that KNFB Reader delivers on it’s promise to be the best and most easy-to-use OCR app for a blind person. I think I will use OCR a lot more now since while Prizmo and Text Grabber both worked pretty good, they still were not as easy to use and the fact you can get all the feedback from KNFB if you want it is really good. I know KNFB was criticized a lot and I myself criticized them for not delivering on the end of August release but after all is said and done they simply did an outstanding job.
Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of leliastr...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 12:36 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions There is no trial for the KMF the reader is there? I wish there were. It would be nice to give it a try before you bye Lelia Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2014, at 1:26 PM, Lynn White <lynnwhite...@gmail.com <mailto:lynnwhite...@gmail.com> > wrote: Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2014, at 1:59 PM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org <mailto:jmo...@mosen.org> > wrote: This is exactly why I have opted for the 6 Plus. My understanding of the technology match's David's. The problem is that all the reviews out there are about taking photos the way a sighted person takes photos. Unsurprising given the vast majority of readers are sighted. I agree, actual comparisons would be good and KNFB Technologies may be in the best position to help out here, but apart from the significantly better battery life of the 6 Plus, I'm putting up with the size because I'm confident I'll get better document scans with less effort. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 21/09/2014, at 1:15 am, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com> > wrote: I'd still like to see comparisons between the 6 and 6 Plus. From the reviews I've read, the OIS feature in the Plus seems more for low light than anything else, and while it helps, reviewers say it is nice but not a game-changer. It may help OCR, it may not; I'd just want comparisons before I based my phone-buyng decision on the OIS in the Plus. On Sep 20, 2014, at 8:03 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com> > wrote: Actually, both the 6 and the 6+ have features which will help a fair amount for any OCR app. Both new iPhones have special pixels which set the pixels in the area for the lighting/contrast of that particular area. This means the contrast of the page image will improve, which should improve the image for OCR. Second, and more important, is the physical image stabilisation of the 6+ camera. Jitter, or the image blurring because of even slight movement whilst the picture is being taken, is a huge problem for blind people. In fact, the four biggest problems for blind people are distance, jitter, skewing, and tilting of the camera. Physical image stabilisation will automatically correct for the jitter problem if it is minor jitter. This is enough to make a null scan into a partial scan, and a close scan into a good scan. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com> dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 19 Sep 2014, at 04:57, Sieghard Weitzel < <mailto:siegh...@live.ca> siegh...@live.ca> wrote: Hi Eileen, If you are going to get KNFB Reader you might as well get it, it is my guess that the optical image stabilization of the 6 Plus will not make a huge difference. KNFB Reader already has a lot of built in help to take the best picture possible and while the 6 and 6 Plus have a new sensor with slightly larger pixel size, it is still an 8 MP camera and much the same as on a 5S. From: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com [ <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eileen Misrahi Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 5:08 AM To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions Hello Jonathan, Your first impressions of the KNFB app is encouraging. At this time, I'm going to have to be on the sidelines until I decide on which iPhone 6 I will purchase. This is my question to this thread. For those who invest in the KNFB Reader app and have purchased either an iPhone 6 or 6 plus, it would be terrific to post on the accuracy of the app in comparison to the phone that they originally installed the app on. Also, if one can also comment on the use of the app with the 6 plus in particular because of the optical stabilization. ANOTHER person read my mind regarding if your use of the app was with the StandScan or with some other type of stand. Thanks so much for your first impressions. Best, Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2014, at 4:41 AM, Feliciano G < <mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com> theblindman...@hotmail.com> wrote: It is now available on the app store to download. Regards, Feliciano Like my Facebook page: <https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=690649294341327> https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=690649294341327 Follow me on Twitter: <http://www.twitter.com/theblindman12v> Www.twitter.com/theblindman12v Sent from the Super-iPhone On Sep 18, 2014, at 4:19 AM, "BrianMiller" < <mailto:brianrmille...@gmail.com> brianrmille...@gmail.com> wrote: Jonathan, So is the KNFB reader app now available in the app store? Also, are you using a stand to take the scans/pics, or are you just holding the phone over the page or item? Thanks so much, this is very encouraging! Brian M From: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com[ <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf OfJonathan Mosen Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 4:05 AM To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: KNFB Reader, First Impressions I've spent the last half hour or so playing with KNFB Reader on my iPhone 5s. I couldn't be more impressed. I read my son's school report, which it got word perfect even when it came to reading tables. It read a glossy pizza menu fairly well. It read the page of a book perfectly, and it read a letter I received in the mail. The feedback one gets via vibration to line up the picture is incredibly helpful. You can use the field of view report if you need to for even more information about camera positioning and angle. And, it's fast. Very fast, between taking a picture and getting speech. It's early days but this has actually exceeded my expectations. Certainly it's possible to use other apps, but I've found nothing this simple, fast, or accurate without any additional aids. Outstanding stuff. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training <http://mosen.org/> http://Mosen.org -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. 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