I was having a similar problem, with another app. My solution was I cleaned my screen. Perhaps this is your problem too.
Chuck (mobile) Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores. > On Sep 20, 2014, at 3:00 PM, "BrianMiller" <brianrmille...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thanks Sieghard… I use the two-finger double-tap all the time in other > contexts, though… It’s like there are two layers of activity going on at the > same time… One layer is the text being read to me, and the other layer is the > app elements. I can flick right and left and find a play/pause button, or a > next and back button, but it absolutely will not respond to a two-finger > double-tap. Is there a setting I need to toggle to make this work? > > Thanks, > > Brian M > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 4:18 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions > > Hi Brian, > > First of all, in my opinion KNFB Reader is not designed to read a 300 page > book by doing free-hand scans of each page or even double page. If you are > indeed scanning entire bvooks I think a flatbed scanner is still the way to > go. > > As far as using a 2-finger double tap to stop and start reading that does > work for me. I suspect you don’t do the gesture quite correctly. If Voiceover > tells you what is on the screen maybe it is just registering as a single > 2-finger tap. > > I find it easiest to hold the phone with one hand and to use the other to do > my tapping. Having tilt feedback on I think works great and I occasionally > use the field of view report. Fortunately I find it not too difficult to hold > the phne level and usually within 5 degrees skew which doesn’t seem to effect > the scan quality very much if at all. I guess everybody is different here > just as people use different methods to hold the phone and type, it is > something we all have to figure out for ourselves. > > > Regards, > Sieghard > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > BrianMiller > Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 1:08 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions > > I just purchased the KNFB reader app this morning and have experimented a > little bit with it… I scanned some food packages and some loose pages and a > number of pages of a book, and I think there is a lot of potential with this > app, but a few things I either haven’t figured out how to manage, or that > need fixing… > > 1. For example, I can’t figure out how to get the app to stop reading > a scan without tapping the play/pause button… In the Applevis podcast, > Michael Hinksen is able to stop it from reading with a two finger double-tap, > just like it were voice over. However, it won’t do this when I try it, and > in fact I just get voice over telling me what’s on the screen and the other > voice reading in the background, which is rather confusing and kind of > annoying. > > > 2. I can’t seem to scan more than one page at a time without erasing > or saving the page I’ve scanned – if I hit the back button to go out to the > main page with the take picture button, it asks if I want to save the > document; if I don’t it erases it, which is fine, but this seems like lots of > steps… I’d like to be able to take picture after picture until I’m ready to > save or erase… Maybe I can do this under batch scanning? But then will it > ask me to save or create a document? I don’t always want to create a document > if I’m just playing around. > > 3. It’s kind of tricky to hold the phone, line it up, and tap the > screen to take a picture or get a field report… I tried the method that is > described in the AppleVIS podcast, i.e., holding the phone with both hands, > arms on a table, but then it’s hard to do this without covering the speaker > at the end of the phone, making it hard to hear; or, to tap the screen to get > it to do what I want it to. > > 4. If I toggle voice over off and then on again, the buttons will no > longer respond to a double-tap… I can read the screen, but the app will no > longer respond… I have to close the app and reopen it. > > I should add I am using an iPhone 5, with IOS7. > > I think it would be quite a challenge to scan an entire book without a > standscan pro to hold the phone… It’s hard to hold the page of a book flat, > line up the shot, and then get a good pic that reads it correctly with > minimal errors. > > I think this is a big step forward, and the quality of the scans is generally > superior, but there is still work to be done here… And of course I’m still > learning and practicing how to use the app effectively… No doubt things will > get easier in time, and the app will be tweaked to make improvements.. > > Thanks, > > Brian Miller > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Lynn White > Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 3:26 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 20, 2014, at 1:59 PM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote: > > This is exactly why I have opted for the 6 Plus. My understanding of the > technology match's David's. The problem is that all the reviews out there are > about taking photos the way a sighted person takes photos. Unsurprising given > the vast majority of readers are sighted. I agree, actual comparisons would > be good and KNFB Technologies may be in the best position to help out here, > but apart from the significantly better battery life of the 6 Plus, I'm > putting up with the size because I'm confident I'll get better document scans > with less effort. > Jonathan Mosen > Mosen Consulting > Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training > http://Mosen.org > > On 21/09/2014, at 1:15 am, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: > > I'd still like to see comparisons between the 6 and 6 Plus. From the reviews > I've read, the OIS feature in the Plus seems more for low light than anything > else, and while it helps, reviewers say it is nice but not a game-changer. It > may help OCR, it may not; I'd just want comparisons before I based my > phone-buyng decision on the OIS in the Plus. > On Sep 20, 2014, at 8:03 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Actually, both the 6 and the 6+ have features which will help a fair amount > for any OCR app. > > Both new iPhones have special pixels which set the pixels in the area for the > lighting/contrast of that particular area. This means the contrast of the > page image will improve, which should improve the image for OCR. > > Second, and more important, is the physical image stabilisation of the 6+ > camera. Jitter, or the image blurring because of even slight movement whilst > the picture is being taken, is a huge problem for blind people. In fact, the > four biggest problems for blind people are distance, jitter, skewing, and > tilting of the camera. Physical image stabilisation will automatically > correct for the jitter problem if it is minor jitter. This is enough to make > a null scan into a partial scan, and a close scan into a good scan. > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: dchitten...@gmail.com > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > > On 19 Sep 2014, at 04:57, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: > > Hi Eileen, > > If you are going to get KNFB Reader you might as well get it, it is my guess > that the optical image stabilization of the 6 Plus will not make a huge > difference. KNFB Reader already has a lot of built in help to take the best > picture possible and while the 6 and 6 Plus have a new sensor with slightly > larger pixel size, it is still an 8 MP camera and much the same as on a 5S. > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Eileen Misrahi > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 5:08 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions > > Hello Jonathan, > > > Your first impressions of the KNFB app is encouraging. At this time, I'm > going to have to be on the sidelines until I decide on which iPhone 6 I will > purchase. This is my question to this thread. For those who invest in the > KNFB Reader app and have purchased either an iPhone 6 or 6 plus, it would be > terrific to post on the accuracy of the app in comparison to the phone that > they originally installed the app on. Also, if one can also comment on the > use of the app with the 6 plus in particular because of the optical > stabilization. ANOTHER person read my mind regarding if your use of the app > was with the StandScan or with some other type of stand. > > > Thanks so much for your first impressions. > > > Best, > Eileen > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 18, 2014, at 4:41 AM, Feliciano G <theblindman...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > It is now available on the app store to download. > > > Regards, Feliciano > > > > Like my Facebook page: https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=690649294341327 > Follow me on Twitter: Www.twitter.com/theblindman12v > > > Sent from the Super-iPhone > > On Sep 18, 2014, at 4:19 AM, "BrianMiller" <brianrmille...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Jonathan, > So is the KNFB reader app now available in the app store? > > Also, are you using a stand to take the scans/pics, or are you just holding > the phone over the page or item? > > Thanks so much, this is very encouraging! > > Brian M > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > OfJonathan Mosen > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 4:05 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: KNFB Reader, First Impressions > > I've spent the last half hour or so playing with KNFB Reader on my iPhone 5s. > I couldn't be more impressed. > I read my son's school report, which it got word perfect even when it came to > reading tables. It read a glossy pizza menu fairly well. It read the page of > a book perfectly, and it read a letter I received in the mail. The feedback > one gets via vibration to line up the picture is incredibly helpful. You can > use the field of view report if you need to for even more information about > camera positioning and angle. > And, it's fast. Very fast, between taking a picture and getting speech. > It's early days but this has actually exceeded my expectations. Certainly > it's possible to use other apps, but I've found nothing this simple, fast, or > accurate without any additional aids. Outstanding stuff. > Jonathan Mosen > Mosen Consulting > Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training > http://Mosen.org > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. 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I have yet to be able to > actually read an entire page when the phone is lined up straight. > Hi Jonathan, > I am so frustrated trying to use the K in FB reader. I never can line the > camera up straight with the page. I know that you're supposed to point the > camera to the upper half of the page. > Even when I think I have done so, it's not right. So, I will take you up on > getting an iPhone 6+.I know that you're supposed to have the upper part of > the camera in the upper part of the page. However > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. 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