I don't think it's exclusive to people running IOS 8 on the 4S. Brian for example, who started this thread, said he's running IOS 8 on his 5s.

On 09/24/2014 09:09 AM, John Diakogeorgiou wrote:
It seems to me that the people who are having crashing problems with
IOS 8 are those with 4s's. It's very possible that the 4s can't handle
the requirements of IOS with other apps and Apple shouldn't have
supported it.

On 9/24/14, Øyvind Lode <oyv...@lode.is> wrote:
First of all I must say that I don't regret upgrading my 4s to iOS 8.
However, VoiceOver crashes all the time on my 4s.
I have not found a pattern to all the crashes.
The good thing is that VO at least restarts when it decide to die on me.
But it crashes at least 10-15 times a day and I know when it crashed VO is
on, screen curtain on etc is announced.
I have done a reset - reset to factory settings but still the same.

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Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: 24. september 2014 13:53
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS is complete crap with VoiceOver

Doing as David suggests is probably best, but it might also be the case
that your voice was turned off. Try a three finger double tap to toggle
the voice on and off.

Also, if you have the home button set as your VoiceOver short cut, try a
triple tap of the home button. Recycling VoiceOver helps me in similar
situations. Maybe you can use Siri to turn VoiceOver off and then back
on as well.

I've seen a couple of posts now to where IOS 8 with it's VoiceOver bugs
is compared to blindness specific products or older smart phone
technologies, like Windows Mobile running Mobile Accessibility. IMHO,
one of the great things about Apple and their commitment to making their
main stream products accessible is that we get treated the same as the
rest of their main stream customers. I fear that if we lower the bar
with our expectations then we're no better off then when we use those so
called blind ghetto products that so many people are quick to thumb
their noses at. Let's give Apple credit where credit is due, but let's
just not roll over like blind Uncle Tom's being happy with whatever
accessibility Apple thinks we'll be content with.

On 09/24/2014 12:18 AM, David Chittenden wrote:
When VO goes quiet like that, take your fingers away from the iPhone. iOS
is performing memory management. Give a chance for iOS / VO to catch up.
Something similar occurred with iOS 7 when it first came out. Unlike
blindness specific poducts which can take six months to a year to be
fixed, Apple's history is to take one-three months. Let's see what
happens.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 24 Sep 2014, at 14:49, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:

I'm sorry but VoiceOver on my 5S has now complete crap on IOS 8 as for
the second time today VoiceOver has completely crapped out while tapping
the screen at the same time a push notification comes through. VoiceOVer
just dies and if I press the home button and tell Siri to tell Siri to
turn VO on Siri tells me VO is already on. Ok, really then why am I
hearing nothing but clicks. Then I go to press the power on/off button
and the home button to restart the phone and now that doesn't work as I
hear the photo being taken sound. Really impressive job with IOS8 Apple.
I'm sorry but this IOS 8 release with all of its bugs is total crap and a
really piss poor job by Apple for the blind community. If you haven't
upgraded yet don't until 8.1 and that is if Apple can be bothered to
actually make some VO changes in that one as it is obvious there
engineers are more focused on other areas and VoiceOver is at the bottom
of the food chain. Time to start at least listening to what Droid is
doin
g, never thought I would say that having been on the iPhone since the 3GS
and completely shifting all my products to Apple, but this release and the
35 or so VO bugs is making me start to think maybe Apple isn't the answer.

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