I can receive calls from the iPhone 4S but am unable to make any. I set everything that seemed to need to be set but guess since this is actually a phone and not an iPad or iPod, it works somewhat differently.
Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: christopher hallsworth To: Viphone Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 1:31 PM Subject: Re: why I don't like iOS 8: was Re: IOS is complete crap with VoiceOver Lol! That will be part of the handoff feature in iOS 8. This allows calls to be made and received from any device running iOS 8 including iPad and iPod Touch as well as Macs running Yosemite coming soon. Sent from my Macbook Pro On 25 Sep 2014, at 18:00, SoonerAnnie <sooneran...@att.net> wrote: My 4S is doing better than my 5S. Fortunately I'm not having any crashing problems for the most part, but the caller ID on my 5S doesn't announce who's calling anymore! Major disappointment! However, my 4S, which doesn't have cell service but began ringing after this update, does announce who's calling. So go figure! LOL Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Pelletier" <ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 11:47 PM Subject: RE: why I don't like iOS 8: was Re: IOS is complete crap with VoiceOver Sharonda, Maybe Apple is not complete crap but, in view of what they pulled today, its making people wonder if the extra money they pay for an Apple product is really worth it. They seem to have completely abused the confidence of their customers by letting down their quality control which, in fact, is complete crap. As far as I am concerned, the subjet line can stay there for a while Ron & Danvers -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sharonda Greenlaw Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 9:17 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: why I don't like iOS 8: was Re: IOS is complete crap with VoiceOver Personally, I believe the subject should be changed. iOS is not complete crap. It may not have all of the bugs worked out, but it is not complete crap. That's just one person's opin ion. Sharonda Sent from my mobile device; please excuse all mistakes On Sep 24, 2014, at 5:39 PM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> wrote: I don't think it's exclusive to people running IOS 8 on the 4S. Brian for example, who started this thread, said he's running IOS 8 on his 5s. On 09/24/2014 09:09 AM, John Diakogeorgiou wrote: It seems to me that the people who are having crashing problems with IOS 8 are those with 4s's. It's very possible that the 4s can't handle the requirements of IOS with other apps and Apple shouldn't have supported it. On 9/24/14, Ųyvind Lode <oyv...@lode.is> wrote: First of all I must say that I don't regret upgrading my 4s to iOS 8. However, VoiceOver crashes all the time on my 4s. I have not found a pattern to all the crashes. The good thing is that VO at least restarts when it decide to die on me. But it crashes at least 10-15 times a day and I know when it crashed VO is on, screen curtain on etc is announced. I have done a reset - reset to factory settings but still the same. -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: 24. september 2014 13:53 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS is complete crap with VoiceOver Doing as David suggests is probably best, but it might also be the case that your voice was turned off. Try a three finger double tap to toggle the voice on and off. Also, if you have the home button set as your VoiceOver short cut, try a triple tap of the home button. Recycling VoiceOver helps me in similar situations. Maybe you can use Siri to turn VoiceOver off and then back on as well. I've seen a couple of posts now to where IOS 8 with it's VoiceOver bugs is compared to blindness specific products or older smart phone technologies, like Windows Mobile running Mobile Accessibility. IMHO, one of the great things about Apple and their commitment to making their main stream products accessible is that we get treated the same as the rest of their main stream customers. I fear that if we lower the bar with our expectations then we're no better off then when we use those so called blind ghetto products that so many people are quick to thumb their noses at. Let's give Apple credit where credit is due, but let's just not roll over like blind Uncle Tom's being happy with whatever accessibility Apple thinks we'll be content with. On 09/24/2014 12:18 AM, David Chittenden wrote: When VO goes quiet like that, take your fingers away from the iPhone. iOS is performing memory management. Give a chance for iOS / VO to catch up. Something similar occurred with iOS 7 when it first came out. Unlike blindness specific poducts which can take six months to a year to be fixed, Apple's history is to take one-three months. Let's see what happens. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 24 Sep 2014, at 14:49, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote: I'm sorry but VoiceOver on my 5S has now complete crap on IOS 8 as for the second time today VoiceOver has completely crapped out while tapping the screen at the same time a push notification comes through. VoiceOVer just dies and if I press the home button and tell Siri to tell Siri to turn VO on Siri tells me VO is already on. Ok, really then why am I hearing nothing but clicks. Then I go to press the power on/off button and the home button to restart the phone and now that doesn't work as I hear the photo being taken sound. Really impressive job with IOS8 Apple. I'm sorry but this IOS 8 release with all of its bugs is total crap and a really piss poor job by Apple for the blind community. If you haven't upgraded yet don't until 8.1 and that is if Apple can be bothered to actually make some VO changes in that one as it is obvious there engineers are more focused on other areas and VoiceOver is at the bottom of the food chain. Time to start at least listening to what Droid is doin g, never thought I would say that having been on the iPhone since the 3GS and completely shifting all my products to Apple, but this release and the 35 or so VO bugs is making me start to think maybe Apple isn't the answer. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. 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