Interesting,  We had a link about the braille input only yesterday, and I 
kept it as text.

This feature of being able to explore wasn't mentioned.  How do you then get 
out of explore mode?

Thanks, RobH.

Ps:  I'll add it to the end of the text I kept.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alex Hall" <mehg...@icloud.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 1:58 AM
Subject: Re: Problems using onscreen Braille keyboard


The gesture for explore mode is not a double tap and hold, you simply place 
a finger on the screen and leave it there until VO says "now in explore 
mode". That might be part of the confusion.
On Sep 25, 2014, at 8:55 PM, Cheryl Lenartiene <cheryl.lenarti...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

> When I can get it to work, what I entered does make sense. Fortunately, 
> it's not gibberish. However, when it fails, it fails royally. It does not 
> even recognize the double tap and hold gesture to enter explore mode.
>
> Cheryl
>
> Be joyful always, pray continually, give thanks in all circumstances;
> for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.
> 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 25, 2014, at 3:55 PM, Deb Lewis <deblewi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I've definitely done all this. Everything I write is jibberish. Lots
>> of it is on the wrong side of the cell. If it isn't, it' just garbage
>> for the most part. I've tried both modes. I know lots of people have
>> gotten it to work, and I got it to work in the app so I don't know
>> hwat's different here but it most definitely is.
>>
>> On 9/25/14, RobH. <bobs...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> Oh, very good;  that's two gems;  the 2finger scrub to get out is more 
>>> my
>>> thing.
>>>
>>> Rh.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Ioana Gandrabur" <igandra...@gmail.com>
>>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 8:22 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Problems using onscreen Braille keyboard
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Here is the section on writing in braille from the apple user guide, 
>>> just in
>>>
>>> case it might outline something you missed.
>>> I did not know for example about expand text option with 2 finger hlick
>>> down.
>>>
>>> http://help.apple.com/iphone/8/en.lproj/iph10366cc30.html";
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Sep 25, 2014, at 11:10 AM, Deb Lewis <deblewi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have the same issues as cheryl. I think we may not be getting it
>>>> calibrated correctly. Don't know if anyone can comment to that aspect
>>>> of it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 9/25/14, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>> Aside from spaces not always registering, and key echo not working in
>>>>> contracted mode, I have no problems. The actual accuracy of the 
>>>>> braille
>>>>> input (again, spaces notwithstanding) seems to be the same as 
>>>>> MBraille.
>>>>> Granted, I always use Away Mode, but still, all gestures and commands
>>>>> work
>>>>> as expected. This will sound rather stupid, I know, but are you sure 
>>>>> you
>>>>> enabled braille mode? Since the only gesture you can get working is 
>>>>> the
>>>>> rotor, it almost sounds like braille isn't on at all. Again, I know 
>>>>> how
>>>>> od
>>>>> that sounds, but I can't think of why else it would not work for you.
>>>>>> On Sep 25, 2014, at 10:39 AM, Jennie Facer <jennie.fa...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have found that if you use uncontracted Braille, it works better. 
>>>>>> You
>>>>>>
>>>>>> do
>>>>>> have to write that way, but characters are noticed better that way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jenn
>>>>>>
>>>>>>               TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMENE YOU ARE THE
>>>>>> WORLD!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 25, 2014, at 8:20 AM, Cheryl Lenartiene
>>>>>> <cheryl.lenarti...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Much of the time, when I use the onscreen Braille keyboard, nothing 
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> type is recognized or input. Other gestures that aren't recognized
>>>>>>> include turning contracted Braille translation on and off, 
>>>>>>> attempting
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> calibrate the dots, and attempting to use Explore Mode to locate the
>>>>>>> dots
>>>>>>> on screen. The only gesture that seems to be recognized is the 
>>>>>>> gesture
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> change the rotor setting. Is anyone else experiencing this?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am an experienced MBraille user, and MBraille is still working
>>>>>>> reliably
>>>>>>> for me, so I don't think it's me or the hardware in my phone. 
>>>>>>> Thoughts
>>>>>>> appreciated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheryl
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Be joyful always, pray continually, give thanks in all 
>>>>>>> circumstances;
>>>>>>> for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.
>>>>>>> 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18
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