I have done it the triditional way for so long, I don't know if I can even wrap my head around this method. I am use to having 1 2 3 from right to left on the left side, and 4 5 6 from left to right on the right side with the space bar in the middle. I will try it more when I get my 6plus.
Frustrated with your Mac, I-device, or AppleTV? New user and want quick efficient answers? Or maybe you know apple products and want to contribute? Then come join a list where questions are always answered, and we are always patient with you. Subscribe here: peel-the-apple-subscr...@ultragroups.us Or just follow us on twitter https://twitter.com/PealTheApple And ask your question there. All are welcome! On Sep 26, 2014, at 12:32 AM, Cheryl Homiak <cah4...@icloud.com> wrote: > Yw! > > There actually is a way to deal with bluetooth keyboards too which has a > thread on this list if you can go back and find it. Sorry that I don't have > time to go back and reiterate it or repost it right now. > > -- > Cheryl > > I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. > I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper > thrown in the trash! > Then God gave me a new heart and life: > His joy for my despairing tears! > And now, every day: > "This I call to mind, > and therefore I have hope: > The steadfast love of the Lord > never ceases; > his mercies never come to an end; > they are new every morning; > great is your faithfulness." > (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) > > > > > On Sep 25, 2014, at 11:27 PM, Neal Ewers <neal.ew...@ravenswood.org> wrote: > >> Cheryl. This makes a lot of sense. I wondered if you could get to something >> that was like the Perkins braille writer. That is what I am used to. I'm not >> sure who came up with the flat V termonology, but it totally confused me. >> And I don't think I would like away mode. Oh, I could get use to it, but it >> would appear that there is an easier way. >> >> This may make the bug of not being able to use a blue tooth keyboard a >> little less frustating, because now, there is a choice that appears to work. >> >> Thanks for taking the time to write this all out. >> >> Neal >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Cheryl Homiak >> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 11:09 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Braille Inpput: What Helped me Figure it out >> >> Okay, I've experimented with this in the light of people saying the dots >> stay backward in tabletop mode and here's what I found. But it's very >> confusing to try to write correctly so it has taken me a long time to put >> this down to try to communicate. I don't know if this is how it is >> "supposed" to work but this is what works for me for tabletop mode. >> >> If I have the phone on my lap flat with the home button on my right and >> tturn the phone away from me so the home button and screen face out and then >> turn it back toward me, , my dots are backward. In other words, goign from >> left to right along the long edge of the phone that is closest to me, I will >> have 6 5 4 1 2 3, with 3 nearest the home button. If I put three fingers of >> my left hand down from left to right toward the left end of the long side >> but going from left to right on the long side, I will get an underscore. If >> I put three fingers of my right hand going along the long side further >> right, I will get an l. If instead, I hold the phone in my lap, again with >> the home button to my right and turn the phone so the home button is facing >> me, still on the right, then turn it back to tabletop, the dots from left to >> right are 3 2 1 4 5 6 with 6 nearest the home button. Then putting three >> fingers of my left hand down from left to right on the long side that is >> toward me gives me an l where putting three fingers down on that long side >> but further right gives me an underscore. Brailling then feels so much like >> brailling on a braille writer that I forget and want to do a space in the >> middle of the long side by touching there where a space key would be on a >> braille writer. This of course is wrong and instead usually puts an a where >> I wanted a space. >> >> Here's the same equation with the home button on the left: >> If I hold the phone flat on my lap with the home button to the left, turn it >> away so the home button is away from me but still on the left, and then turn >> it back flat in tabletop mode, again, i have from left to right: 6 5 4 1 2 3 >> with 3 the furthest away from the home button. If, however, I hold it on my >> lap with the home button to the left and turn the phone toward me so the >> home button and screen are facing me, then turn the phone back flat, the >> dots are then as they should be from left to right: 3 2 1 4 5 6, which is >> the way they are on a braille writer except that the braille writer would >> have the space key between the 1 and the 4. >> >> I have done this several times and it appears to be consistent. So in other >> words, what works for me if I want to do tabletop is to hold the phone flat >> on my lap turn it toward me instead of away from me till it says away mode >> and then put it flat into tabletop mode again. The dots are then on the long >> side closest to me and not on the two ends of the phone. >> >> If I am understanding rightly though I haven't tried to do away mode much, >> in away mode your dots are at the opposit ends of the phone so that 1 2 and >> 3 would be on the left short side and 4 5 6 are on the right short side >> which of course does not feel like brailling with a Perkins braille writer >> at least not for me. >> >> Hth. >> >> -- >> Cheryl >> >> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. >> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper >> thrown in the trash! >> Then God gave me a new heart and life: >> His joy for my despairing tears! >> And now, every day: >> "This I call to mind, >> and therefore I have hope: >> The steadfast love of the Lord >> never ceases; >> his mercies never come to an end; >> they are new every morning; >> great is your faithfulness." >> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) >> >> >> >> >> On Sep 25, 2014, at 9:01 PM, Sandy Finley <finleykn...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Nicki and others, >> >> I don't know if this will help you but here is a set of steps I have learned >> from others that helped me with the braille input. >> >> 1. When you land in an edit field turn your rotor once to the right. >> The Braille keyboard is usually there because the Braille setting on your >> rotor follows the edit field around. >> >> 2. I find it useful to use away mode. For some reason, when in table >> mode, dots 1, 2, 3 appear on the right so everything is backwards. >> >> 3. Once in a way mode, Do not calibrate just write. >> >> Unfortunately, when trying to use contracted Braille the app does not echo >> characters. I like to have characters echoed at this point so I write in >> unconstructed Braille. >> >> 4. Flick once left to erase a character and once right for space. >> 5. >> 6. When done rotor once left or right, then you can use VO gestures >> again. HTH >> >> Sandy >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. >> All new members to the this list are moderated by default. 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