Oddly, and blessedly for me; the fingers used for the dots, remain the same in both. Good job I was brought up on the old slate mind so I can work it out everywhichway.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicki Keck" <jesusgir...@gmail.com> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 9:52 PM Subject: RE: Braille Input: What Helped me Figure it out Actually, tabletop mode is more like a perkins and screen away mode is more like a slate and stylus. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rose Combs Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 11:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Braille Input: What Helped me Figure it out The more I hear about doing braille input on the phone the more confused I get. Nothing new in that over the past several months, I am of two minds whether to bite the bullet or not, sounds to me like to use tabletop I would have to think like I was writing with a slate and stylus, and I have never been particularly adept at that. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of christopher hallsworth Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 12:25 PM To: Viphone Subject: Re: Braille Input: What Helped me Figure it out Agreed, especially on my iPad where I am very fast at typing in Braille on there. As for the phone once I got the correct orientation I can quite happily type in Braille on there too. I use tabletop mode only. Sent from my Macbook Pro On 26 Sep 2014, at 20:22, Cheryl Homiak <cah4...@icloud.com <mailto:cah4...@icloud.com> > wrote: Well, I would say that for me away mode is more like the feel of using a slate and stylus and the tabletop mode is more like a Perkins brailler would feel. I happen to be better at tabletop because it gives my fingers the feeling that they are typing on a Perkins brailler or my Braille Edge. But it's nice that there is more than one way to do it. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: "This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness." (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Sep 26, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Teresa Cochran <batsfly...@me.com <mailto:batsfly...@me.com> > wrote: I can now enter my passcode in both modes, though my overall accuracy is better in screen-away mode. To me, the difference between this method and a Perkins is like the difference between Braille on displays and on paper. They're different, but similar enough. Teresa "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks On Sep 26, 2014, at 10:45 AM, Alex Hall < <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com> mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: Undeoubtedly, it's far different and takes getting used to. As you said, though, it is often easier to be able to type out something in braille than hook up a notetaker or display, and it certainly makes entering my passcode easy. If possible, give it a try, long enough to really test it out and get accustomed to how it works. It might not be for you, but the convenience is definitely worth at least giving it a shot to see for sure. On Sep 26, 2014, at 1:40 PM, Rose Combs < <mailto:roseco...@q.com> roseco...@q.com> wrote: Maybe I am crazy, but as a user of a braille no taker, albeit an old one and a Perkins Brailler, I just cannot wrap my head around using an onscreen braille writing tool. Sometimes it would be much wiser but, I have never tried it. From: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com[ <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sharonda Greenlaw Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 7:37 PM To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Braille Input: What Helped me Figure it out this is awesome information. Thanks! I am writing this in Braille ! Sharonda Sent from my mobile device; please excuse all mistakes On Sep 25, 2014, at 7:20 PM, Neal Ewers < <mailto:neal.ew...@ravenswood.org> neal.ew...@ravenswood.org> wrote: That's interesting that they give you both modes. It takes me back to the days when I used a slate and stylus and when you were writing, dots one, two, and three were on the right side. Of course, note takers and braille displays reversed this, but I find it interesting that you have both on the device. Neal From: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com[ <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf OfSandy Finley Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 9:01 PM To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Braille Inpput: What Helped me Figure it out Nicki and others, I don't know if this will help you but here is a set of steps I have learned from others that helped me with the braille input. 1. When you land in an edit field turn your rotor once to the right. The Braille keyboard is usually there because the Braille setting on your rotor follows the edit field around. 2. I find it useful to use away mode. For some reason, when in table mode, dots 1, 2, 3 appear on the right so everything is backwards. 3. Once in a way mode, Do not calibrate just write. Unfortunately, when trying to use contracted Braille the app does not echo characters. 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