Be willing to train, then apply, you have to take something saleable to an interview; and no guarantee even then. ----- Original Message ----- From: "connie mohney" <conniemoh...@sbcglobal.net> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 11:15 PM Subject: Re: One way Apple could better test its products
Of course. The person with a disability would have to have knowledge about the products or be willing to be trained. Connie Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 28, 2014, at 6:03 PM, "Charles Rivard" <wee1s...@fidnet.com> wrote: > > Absolutely right. First, you have to be able to do the job, whatever it > is, regardless of your handicap. The handicap should be a secondary > consideration, if it is a consideration at all. A prime example of this > is this: I have been in foreign food restaurants, and not been able to > communicate with the servers because they don't speak English well enough > to communicate with the general public. If I had been in charge of the > hiring process, a major consideration would have been the ability to > communicate with Americans, in English. If they couldn't, they wouldn't > get the job that requires that skill. This is not due to prejudice on my > part, but a fact of reality. > > If I am blilnd, but know nothing at all abolut the technology field, I > shlould not be hired to work in that field until I have some background, > in the form of training, at least, in the field. > > --- > Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're > finished, you! really! are! finished! > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <siegh...@live.ca> > To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 4:55 PM > Subject: RE: One way Apple could better test its products > > > Hi Conni, > > I am sure people with disabilities do work at Apple. However, just having > a > disability does not qualify anybody for a job, if they wanted to hire > people > to work in iOS development who are blind then that blind person would have > to meet whatever qualifications any other employee has who works in the > same > department. > > Regards, > Sieghard > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of connie mohney > Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 2:43 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: One way Apple could better test its products > > It is to bad apple could not hire people with different disabilities. The > people could either work at apple itself or work from home. The employees > from disability support could be asked to get people's contact info so > those > people could be IOS testers. > Connie > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On Sep 24, 2014, at 11:22 PM, "Charles Rivard" <wee1s...@fidnet.com> >> wrote: >> >> One day?? That would be nowhere near long enough. How well were you >> able > to use the iPhone after 1 day? >> >> I think that a good source of information on testing would be the people > who take calls on the phone number that especially for those who are > handicapped. I'm thinking that they would have a better feel for our > difficulties in using the devices than any of the other tech reps. >> >> --- >> Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're > finished, you! really! are! finished! >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neal Ewers" > <neal.ew...@ravenswood.org> >> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, Septemlber 24, 2014 9:56 PM >> Subjeclt: One way Apple could lbetter test its products >> >> >> Perhaps Apple employees should have to spend a day with blindfolds on > using VoiceOver. I don't mean that sarcastically, but I do remember when > Microsoft touted Internet Explorer as being able to be operated totally > with > keyboard shortcuts without touching the mouse. I know, it's not the same > thing, but I think people who want to develop products for people with > differing abilities should, perhaps, have to walk a while in their shoes. > Obviously, there are other disabilities as well, so it would mean a lot of > pairs of shoes, but I bet it would work better for everyone as a result. >> >> Neal >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the viphone > list. All new members to the this list are moderated by defaultl. If you > have > any questions or concerns aboutll the running of this list, or if ylou > feel > that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. 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