I'm saying this as an big Apple fan, but I can't help thinking of the new updates as public betas for all intents and purposes. I do see the downside of linking a software update to hardware production.
Teresa "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks > On Oct 9, 2014, at 6:46 AM, Kayaker <sea...@me.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > You cannot get rid of the notice that an update is available, but if it has > auto downloaded the update, you can remove it from your device by going to: > Settings, General, Usage, Storage, and removing the iOS update from the list. > This will recover the space taken up by the update package. > > On the topic of iOS, people have expressed a lot of opinions as to the > quality of iOS 8 and the commitment of Apple to accessibility without any > supporting facts. Consider this simple business problem. You have > manufactured millions of iPhones that started back in June for sale in the > fall. You must have iOS 8 deployed before you can sell the new hardware. What > are you going to do? Wait until December when iOS is a little more stable, or > release as planned and try to have the software patched as quickly as > possible? It's simple business. you start selling the phones as planned. > Sadly, priorities on the bug list usually depend on how they affect the > majority of users. No doubt many critical or serious bugs are in the voice > over category that were deferred until a future update. Until Apple realizes > that the new phones should not be so tightly coupled to iOS releases, we can > expect to see seemingly major setbacks every year. I had to return my iPhone > 4 because iOS 4 was too buggy and it broke all my apps that I used perfectly > well on the 3GS under iOS 3. Alas, I have no optimism that Apple will break > from this model anytime soon. > What I do wish Tim Cook would realize is that when VO has significant bugs in > new releases, and we have no way of rolling back to a stable platform because > Apple stopped signing older versions of iOS, it is as bad as yanking a cane > out of our hands and saying "Well, you can crawl to get where you are going." > Yes. I feel iOS 8 is that bad and buggy. My productivity has gone down by 15 > percent. I know because I track time on tasks. > > Best, > --k > Faith doesn't give you the answers, it merely stops you from asking the > questions. > > > > >> On Oct 8, 2014, at 9:11 PM, Joe <jsoro...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> On that note, I'm actually interested in dismissing iOS 8 in my Settings. I >> don't think my 4S will fair well with this major update. Any ideas on how to >> get rid of it from my Settings and relieve the space? >> >> Joe >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Bryan Schulz >> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 7:00 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: My thoughts on not upgrading to iOS 8 >> >> hi, >> >> exactly, i can't feel sorry for people who just have to always have the >> newest xyz then b&m about xyz doesn't work. >> Bryan Schulz >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Charles Rivard" <wee1s...@fidnet.com> >> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 5:44 PM >> Subject: Re: My thoughts on not upgrading to iOS 8 >> >> >> The majority of businesses never immediately upgrade software to the newest >> edition, especially when it comes to the firmware of a device like a cell >> phone. And they do not do so for a darned good reason. >> >> --- >> Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, >> you! really! are! finished! >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Flor Lynch" <florl...@iol.ie> >> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 2:19 PM >> Subject: Re: My thoughts on not upgrading to iOS 8 >> >> >> Chris, >> >> No point in doing Apple a favour if you're not also doing yourself a >> favour, or doing it for your own interest. When people need to upgrade, >> for reasons of favourite app compatibility or interest in extra features >> offered, for example, they will. latest isn't necessarily, nor always, >> greatest. Not everybody has the time and patience and technical nous to >> deal with bugs and errors. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <challswor...@icloud.com> >> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 8:00 PM >> Subject: Re: My thoughts on not upgrading to iOS 8 >> >> >> Thanks all. The reason I posted this is I am seeing a lot of people not >> upgrading for absolutely no reason at all other than until the bugs are >> fixed. This I'm afraid is not part of real life as far as software goes. >> All software will have bugs no matter how good the developers are, >> including those working for major companies like Apple. So waiting till >> all bugs are fixed is like waiting till the world ends. >> >> >> Sent from my laptop >> >>> On 30/09/2014 15:48, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >>> Hi Shawn, >>> >>> Quite a few Voiceover users beta tested iOS 8 and it's definitely far from >>> as good as it could be *smile*. Unfortunately providing feedback is not a >>> guaranty that all bugs which are discovered during the beta cycle will be >>> illuminated when the public release happens. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Sieghard >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >>> Of Shawn Krasniuk >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 7:46 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: My thoughts on not upgrading to iOS 8 >>> >>> I agree with you Chris. This is the reason why I'm beta testing Yosemite >>> so when it launches October 21 it's as good as it can be. >>> >>> Shawn >>> Sent From My White MacBook >>> >>>> On Sep 30, 2014, at 4:25 AM, Christopher Hallsworth >>>> <challswor...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all >>>> Here are my personal thoughts on why you should upgrade to iOS 8 despite >>>> the bugs. >>>> >>>> If you do upgrade and discover bugs yourself, you are actually doing >>>> Apple a favour as you can then report your own bugs to them, including >>>> attempting to reproduce them at their end by providing step by step >>>> instructions on how to produce the bugs where possible. This cannot be >>>> achieved if you yourself don't upgrade because you of course won't see >>>> the bugs yourself. I can understand however if your device(s) are used >>>> for purposes other than personal. In reality you will never have software >>>> in general that is bug free as bugs are part of development. 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