It seems to me we had this discussion back when iOS 7 came out. The consensus 
then was that you cannot get rid of the software, even if you don't install it. 
You are stuck with it on your iPhone. That is unfortunate, but that is the way 
Apple does things.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 8, 2014, at 6:11 PM, "Joe" <jsoro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On that note, I'm actually interested in dismissing iOS 8 in my Settings. I 
> don't think my 4S will fair well with this major update. Any ideas on how to 
> get rid of it from my Settings and relieve the space?
> 
> Joe
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Bryan Schulz
> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 7:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: My thoughts on not upgrading to iOS 8
> 
> hi,
> 
> exactly, i can't feel sorry for people who just have to always have the 
> newest xyz then b&m about xyz doesn't work.
> Bryan Schulz
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Charles Rivard" <wee1s...@fidnet.com>
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 5:44 PM
> Subject: Re: My thoughts on not upgrading to iOS 8
> 
> 
> The majority of businesses never immediately upgrade software to the newest
> edition, especially when it comes to the firmware of a device like a cell
> phone.  And they do not do so for a darned good reason.
> 
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> you! really! are! finished!
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Flor Lynch" <florl...@iol.ie>
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 2:19 PM
> Subject: Re: My thoughts on not upgrading to iOS 8
> 
> 
> Chris,
> 
> No point in doing Apple a favour if you're not also doing yourself a
> favour, or doing it for your own interest. When people need to upgrade,
> for reasons of favourite app compatibility or interest in extra features
> offered, for example, they will. latest isn't necessarily, nor always,
> greatest. Not everybody has the time and patience and technical nous to
> deal with bugs and errors.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <challswor...@icloud.com>
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 8:00 PM
> Subject: Re: My thoughts on not upgrading to iOS 8
> 
> 
> Thanks all. The reason I posted this is I am seeing a lot of people not
> upgrading for absolutely no reason at all other than until the bugs are
> fixed. This I'm afraid is not part of real life as far as software goes.
> All software will have bugs no matter how good the developers are,
> including those working for major companies like Apple. So waiting till
> all bugs are fixed is like waiting till the world ends.
> 
> 
> Sent from my laptop
> 
>> On 30/09/2014 15:48, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> Hi Shawn,
>> 
>> Quite a few Voiceover users beta tested iOS 8 and it's definitely far from 
>> as good as it could be *smile*. Unfortunately providing feedback is not a 
>> guaranty that all bugs which are discovered during the beta cycle will be 
>> illuminated when the public release happens.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Shawn Krasniuk
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 7:46 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: My thoughts on not upgrading to iOS 8
>> 
>> I agree with you Chris. This is the reason why I'm beta testing Yosemite 
>> so when it launches October 21 it's as good as it can be.
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook
>> 
>>> On Sep 30, 2014, at 4:25 AM, Christopher Hallsworth 
>>> <challswor...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all
>>> Here are my personal thoughts on why you should upgrade to iOS 8 despite 
>>> the bugs.
>>> 
>>> If you do upgrade and discover bugs yourself, you are actually doing 
>>> Apple a favour as you can then report your own bugs to them, including 
>>> attempting to reproduce them at their end by providing step by step 
>>> instructions on how to produce the bugs where possible. This cannot be 
>>> achieved if you yourself don't upgrade because you of course won't see 
>>> the bugs yourself. I can understand however if your device(s) are used 
>>> for purposes other than personal. In reality you will never have software 
>>> in general that is bug free as bugs are part of development. Not only 
>>> developers make mistakes; software itself can as well.
>>> 
>>> Just my £0.02 worth.
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