Hi, I mainly agree with what you have stated here. Now I admit that we only had our iPhone 4 for 2 years but that wasn’t because we wanted a new 5S just to keep current. the issue was that he 4 was slowing down under IOS7, we did not have Siri; in short, we should have waited a month to purchase the 4S. So I think it largely depends on your circumstances. > On Oct 17, 2014, at 9:54 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: > > Mary, > > I find it interesting how some people still have PC's running Windows XP and > Jaws 10 which means said PC is probably 5+ years old, but in some cases the > same people feel they have to upgrade a 2-year old iPhone or iPad or in some > cases even a 1-year old device. We are definitely taught that consuming and > spending is the way to go and for the last 10 or 15 years kids grow up like > that. Many things are made as throw-away items (printers are a good example) > and companies understand very well how to get people to fix things which > aren't really broken. I bought my Mom's iPad 2 for her and if I suggested now > that maybe she should upgrade to the latest iPad Air 2 because it was faster, > thinner, lighter and had touch Id she would just ask me why she would want to > do that since her iPad works perfectly well for what she does. She is of > course correct. > > > Regards, > Sieghard > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Mary Otten > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 9:42 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Hmmm, iPad mini 3? > > Truth to tell, I still have an old iPad one, which I bought right when iPad 2 > came out. It has not been upgradable since iOS 5. But a lot of things still > work on it. To be sure, it is rather sluggish by today's standards. But it's > great for reading books. All my book apps still run just fine. Even audible, > which can't be updated, so I don't have the delete problem on that machine. > Smile. > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 17, 2014, at 9:17 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: >> >> Yes, it probably will make some difference, but then again as Apple refines >> iOS 8 it may run more efficiently on the slightly older devices and it's not >> like your iPad is that old. And if you do buy an iPad Mini 3 and maybe you >> wait a couple more months then 9 or 10 months later iOS 9 comes out and the >> next generation ipad Mini will be announced which most definitely then will >> get the A8 or even the nnewest A9 chip and you are once again in the same >> boat where maybe iOS 9 will run better on the newest devices and so on. My >> Mom is running iOS 8 on an iPad 2, that is the original large iPad second >> generation which I believe has an A5 processor and while she is not using >> voiceover, iOS itself works just fine. Your ipad |Mini as far as I remember >> would have an A6 or A6x processor and iOS 8 should run fine on that. Apple >> may want you to buy a new device every year or every 2 years, but market >> studies show that especially with the ipad a lot of people are using them >> for much longer. >> >> >> Regards, >> Sieghard >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Russ Kiehne >> Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 9:01 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Hmmm, iPad mini 3? >> >> The thing is, I haven't installed ios 8 on my first generation ipad mini. >> I'm wondering if it will make it run slower than it currently is with ios 7? >> I want to wait for the bugs to be worked out of ios 8. When that happens, >> then I can see how much slower it is. I would assume that the ipad mini 2 >> will make a difference running ios 8. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Sieghard Weitzel >> Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 8:42 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Hmmm, iPad mini 3? >> >> Hi Russ, >> >> If I were you I'd wait a year unless there is something wrong with your >> current iPad Mini. Yes, the iPad Mini Retina gives you a retina screen >> (probably not important for you) and it will give you the A7 processor which >> will give you a bit better speed. However, unless you really feel you need >> Alex which in my opinion sounds less clear than the default high quality >> female voice, why not get a third year out of your device and then upgrade >> next year when there will be some real changes. Just my thought on this. >> >> >> Regards, >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Russ Kiehne >> Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 7:15 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Hmmm, iPad mini 3? >> >> I'll probably get the ipad mini 2 instead of the ipad mini 3. As of now, I >> have the first generation ipad mini. In my case, updating to the ipad mini >> 2 will be an upgrade of hardware. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Mary Otten >> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 5:46 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Hmmm, iPad mini 3? >> >> Somebody else just posted stating that the processor in the mini has not >> been updated. If that is true, my original statement stands. Why the hell by >> the new one? Take advantage of the price drop and get the old one. >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Oct 16, 2014, at 5:27 PM, Traci <our4p...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Not in the Mini, it is still the a7 chip. >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Oct 16, 2014, at 4:37 PM, Joseph <ablindvou...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> Yes. It’s the A8X chip. >>>> >>>>> On Oct 16, 2014, at 4:35 PM, Richard Turner <rich...@turner42.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Did I miss something? Didn't they put in the new chip that is in the >>>>> iPhone 6? >>>>> They have also dropped the price points so for $499 you can get the 16 >>>>> GB WiFi, $599 you can get the 64 GB 'wiFi model and for $699, the 128 >>>>> GB. >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> Richard >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>>> Behalf Of Cristóbal >>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 2:40 PM >>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: RE: Hmmm, iPad mini 3? >>>>> >>>>> The new Mini will be available in gold and have the touch ID sensor. >>>>> Other then that, it's the same device. >>>>> You're better off grabbing last year's model if those two features >>>>> aren't important to you. >>>>> I guess the other thing that is a plus is that pricing seems to be >>>>> headed down. With the lack of a 32GB model, the 64 and 128 GB devices >>>>> are $100.00 cheaper pushing the older versions down too. By offering the >>>>> 16 GB iPads at the same introductory price, it's like Apple wants you to >>>>> just buy the larger storage options instead. >>>>> I guess if you're into the enhanced photo and video aspects with the new >>>>> Air 2, the new versions may be interesting, but all in all, >>>>> underwhelming. >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>>> Behalf Of Traci Duncan >>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 2:27 PM >>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: Hmmm, iPad mini 3? >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> I just ran over to the Apple store website to compare the Mini 2 & 3. >>>>> If I am reading things correctly, the only change is the addition of >>>>> fingerprint security? >>>>> >>>>> For a minut, I thought the Mini 3 had upgraded wi-fi signals, but I’m >>>>> not sure. They both say Wi‑Fi (802.11a/b/g/n); dual channel (2.4GHz >>>>> and 5GHz) and MIMO. iPad2 says, Wi‑Fi (802.11a/b/g/n); dual channel >>>>> (2.4GHz and 5GHz) and MIMO. >>>>> >>>>> Lol, that’s the same, correct? The iPad3 spacificly mentions 2 wi-fi >>>>> antennas, where I cannot find those words for the 2nd Gen retina model. >>>>> >>>>> Anyway, what do you guys know about the differences in the 2 models? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Traci >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> The following information is important for all members of the viphone >>>>> list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you >>>>> have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you >>>>> feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >>>>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. 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