Meanwhile, not had any issue with the space thing since upgrading.
I forgot how to switch contractions on/off.

RobH.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard Turner" <rich...@turner42.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 2:44 PM
Subject: RE: iOS 8.1 and braille input


I’m not seeing a need for the translate command.  I have the braile settings 
with both input and display set to contracted and the automatic translation 
set to off.

Using the Braille Edge with an iPhone 5, if I type a p and hit space, it 
becomes people and so on.  Granted, it doesn’t translate if I pause in a 
word like it does if automatic translation is on, but I am not clear why you 
would need to hit the translation command at the end of a paragraph, etc. 
What am I missing here?



Are there specific apps where this is more easily demonstrated?



While I am a long time braille user, I have to admit, I have not used the 
braille display that much for input, mostly jut for reading.



Richard





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Teresa Cochran
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 2:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 8.1 and braille input



You can try that and see if it's faster. I've been using contracted Braille 
for so long that typing uncontracted Braille is more distracting for me than 
dealing with the delay. But it might work better for you; you never know. I 
find that turning automatic translation off lets me keep my writing rhythm 
going when I only have to press the translate command at the end of a 
paragraph or before a hard carriage return.



Teresa

"We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing 
with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks


On Oct 20, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Richard Turner <rich...@turner42.com 
<mailto:rich...@turner42.com> > wrote:

So, do you also change the input to uncontracted?

I assume you meant dot 7 cord for the hard return.

Richard







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flying.

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On Oct 20, 2014, at 1:33 PM, Teresa Cochran <batsfly...@me.com 
<mailto:batsfly...@me.com> > wrote:

The sluggish Braille input has been happening ever since 8.0. I have just 
switched automatic translation off and use dots 4-5 chord to translate each 
paragraph or before each hard return. I also use dots 8-chord for a carriage 
return, though this might be problematic if you use eight-dot input.



Teresa

"We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing 
with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks


On Oct 20, 2014, at 1:15 PM, Richard Turner <rich...@turner42.com 
<mailto:rich...@turner42.com> > wrote:

Has anyone with a braille display tried to use braille input in Pages or the 
Notes app?
The braille drags behind badly and pretty soon stops taking the braille.
Hitting spacebar plus dots 1 5 freezes the display instead of putting in a 
hard return.
Anyone else experiencing this?
Richard





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 There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
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