Based on the size of the field of testers, especially when the software goes
out to the public for testing, shouldn't these problems be corrected before
the final product is released for sale? I know that this is the case when
it comes to computer games for the blind. The initial beta testers are
selected based on their communications and computer skills and the machines
they are using. The majority of bugs are caught and corrected. If there is
another phase of testing, done by the public, more bugs are reported and
worked on. When the final product is sold, it has met the satisfaction of
the developer. Wouldn't the same procedure work elsewhere? As far as what
the public wants, I have heard a lot of complaints from sighted people as
well as from blind people about the performance of Microsoft operating
systems, in particular, the ribbon menus and 8.1 features, which is why 10.0
is coming out. But based on their past performance of new operating
systems, and their reputation based on that performance, I certainly won't
be first on the block to get it and install it on any machine.
On the other hand, Apple operating system upgrades haven't broken the bank,
and, after a while, they are made to work. That's why they have the
reputation they have. 8.0 is a fluke that was caused, in my opinion, by
Apple's commitment to a deadline rather than on quality before release,
which is an unfortunate mistake.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <siegh...@live.ca>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 2:01 PM
Subject: RE: how to sync apps with iTunes 12: why change things that worked
like in iTunes 11
Hi Charles and Pablo,
I think Microsoft and Apple should hire you guys since you appear to have
deep insight in how an OS should be developed and what features it should
have. The point here is that companies don't always know how people will
react to a product. Yes, you can do focus groups and surveys and yet
something still might be a total bust. Windows 8 was released because
Microsoft is trying to gap the bridge between their desktop OS and the
mobile OS they use on their phones. Windows 10 will further complete this
step and yes, they realized that especially businesses like the desktop
although I have a lot of sighted friends who love Windows 8 and even more
like 8.1 and the approach with metro apps and tiles and so on. In the end
the consumers reaction drives innovation and what things will be like. In a
small way this is no different in my retail store. You think it should be
easy to bring in the products that are good and which people like and will
buy. Unfortunately, however, I including my staff may think a certain
product is totally cool and in the end nobody buys it. This is just human
nature and organizations are made up of humans so mistakes are happen and
will continue to happen. If Microsoft had said "Oh, Windows 7 is great, it
doesn't get better than that so let's just leave it alone for the next 10
years" they would be out of business. Why are their product recalls on
things which have been around for decades? Cars have been around for a
hundred years and sometimes there are major recalls because of some faulty
part which manufacturers should know how to get right, but it still happens.
That's just how things are and as the Borg would say "resistance is futile"
*smile*.
Regards,
Sieghard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Charles Rivard
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 11:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: how to sync apps with iTunes 12: why change things that worked
like in itunes 11
That reminds me of when the "New Coke" came out, and then was done away
with, and the renamed "Coke Classic" was, and still is, sold. Research and
testing could have been done, and the whole situation would have been
avoided. And whatever happened to Windows 9?? They're jumping from 8 point
something or other to 10. With a grin of orneriness, I'll say that I'll bet
9.0 was accessible and it worked well, so they scrapped it. In jest, of
course.
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From: "Pablo Morales" <pablomorale...@gmail.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 1:27 PM
Subject: RE: how to sync apps with iTunes 12: why change things that worked
like in itunes 11
Yes, I believe the same thing. The most part of changes that those companies
are doing, ar only to sale the idea that the company is doing something for
their customers. Windows 8 is a great example of this. Windows 8 changed
manythings. Now, those changes are needed? Those changes improved the
efeciency? Those changes helped the customers? Those changes are really
good?
No, obviously nno. Because of that windows 10 is coming, and this new OS is
going to looks like windows 7, more than to windows 8.
Now what Microsoft won with windows 8?
Billions of dollars. The companies like intel, AMD, DELL, and a long etc
sold millions of computers when windows 8 appeared. IOs8 is the same thing.
The improvements are there, but the quality of the OS is very poor.
Oh, that with the releases they are fixing bugs?
Yes, it is true, but apple should not make mistakes with problems like wifi
connections, when they have a long experience with this kind of problems.
Every IOs looks like they are not learning of their previous mistakes. Every
release shows that they didn't learn of their previous mistakes with voice
over. The problem is not that apple, or Microsoft does mistakes. The problem
is that the customers pays those mistakes.
And is worse when the customers is happy paying for those mistakes.
-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 5:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: how to sync apps with iTunes 12: why change things that worked
like in itunes 11
IMHO, the phrase "change for changes sake" is one of those worn out
terms that people trot out when they don't like some change or don't
take the time to understand it. How many people who have used this term
with respect to iTunes 12 have Googled to find out why Apple made the
changes they did?
I also find it interesting how many people know more about software
development and marketing than Apple and Microsoft do. I can assure you
that these companies aren't making these changes just to keep their
developers busy and put out changes just to trick the customers into
thinking they're doing something and adding value. I'm also sure they
have more people looking at software trends, studying the market,
developing new technologies and doing product planning than all of the
amateur marketeers on this list. Furthermore, the future of these
companies depend on this forward thinking, whereas none of us on this
list have anything to lose if our opinions are off the mark.
Sure there are people out there who liked Windows XP and wish Microsoft
had never changed, but these people would be happy only until Microsoft
went out of business for not being able to remain competitive and then
they were forced to move to something else. I was a happy Symbian user
on Nokia, but I had to switch when that platform was dropped because it
was no longer competitive with IOS and Android. I'm also sure there are
or were some happy Blackberry users out there who've had to or will have
to find a new home. Sure there are some things I miss about Symbian, but
I wouldn't go back now that I've used both IOS and Android.
I also just haven't found some of these changes to be as significant as
some people would make you think. I didn't even realize I'd updated to
iTunes 12 until I saw the discussions on this list. I was still able to
backup my iPhone and install IOS 8.. I even reset my iPhone back to the
factory settings, restored everything and resynced all of my music and
apps with iTunes 12. Ditto for Windows. I've always been surprised how
much Vista, Seven and now Eight, look like XP after hearing all of the
gnashing of teeth over how much has changed. Sure there's been a
learning curve, but I've never had any trouble figuring out how to do
what I needed to do. Makes me wonder how many people use these terms
like "change for changes sake" or "dumbing down the interface" are just
parroting what they've heard or have actually even tried the application
they're criticizing.
On 11/08/2014 10:49 PM, Charles Rivard wrote:
To remain competitive, I would stay with something dependable and stable
that continues to withstand the test of time. Chess is a good example.
Even after a few thousand years, it's still one of the best strategy
games for two players, and the rules of the game haven't been changed
all that much. Why haven't they? Because the game works as it is
designed to. On the other hand, companies like Microsoft are always
having issues with their new fangled, newly designed, current operating
systems when they had a perfectly good system, namely Windows XP.
However, they would rather stay current and innovative, as well as less
dependable and accessible than before.
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----- Original Message -----
*From:* David Chittenden <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:* Saturday, November 08, 2014 8:29 PM
*Subject:* Re: how to sync apps with iTunes 12: why change things
that worked like in itunes 11
Interestingly, you only feel this way when the product works
perfectly for your specific needs. On the other hand, even when the
product meets other people's needs, but it doesn't meet your needs,
you want the product to be changed. The fact is, other people have
different needs, and to remain competitiv:, companies need to change
to remain viable, competitiv:, and alive. Think about it, how many
apps on the app store have not been upgraded and are now effectively
dead? How many apps are no longer available because the creator has
gone on to other things?
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone
On 9 Nov 2014, at 14:28, Charles Rivard <wee1s...@fidnet.com
<mailto:wee1s...@fidnet.com>> wrote:
I totally agree. If it ain't broke, quit fixing it!! Adding new
features is OK, but don't remove what works well, and don't change
the layout so drastically that it doesn't even resemble what
really works well. In my opinion, changing something just because
you feel that it is time to do so, whether it be to antiquity or
to appear to stay current, makes no sense to me at all.
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----- Original Message -----
*From:* Fanus <mailto:buys.fa...@gmail.com>
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:* Friday, November 07, 2014 10:47 AM
*Subject:* how to sync apps with iTunes 12: why change things
that worked like in itunes 11
Hello list
I wonder why companies always change stuff that worked. I try
to transfer apps to my iPhone with iTunes 12 but there is no
"sync" button and I can't check and uncheck the apps in the
list. ITunes 11 worked so well, so I am always wondering why
change something that works?
Regards
Fanus
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