Based on the size of the field of testers, especially when the software
goes out to the public for testing, shouldn't these problems be
corrected before the final product is released for sale? I know that
this is the case when it comes to computer games for the blind. The
initial beta testers are selected based on their communications and
computer skills and the machines they are using. The majority of bugs
are caught and corrected. If there is another phase of testing, done by
the public, more bugs are reported and worked on. When the final
product is sold, it has met the satisfaction of the developer. Wouldn't
the same procedure work elsewhere? As far as what the public wants, I
have heard a lot of complaints from sighted people as well as from blind
people about the performance of Microsoft operating systems, in
particular, the ribbon menus and 8.1 features, which is why 10.0 is
coming out. But based on their past performance of new operating
systems, and their reputation based on that performance, I certainly
won't be first on the block to get it and install it on any machine.
On the other hand, Apple operating system upgrades haven't broken the
bank, and, after a while, they are made to work. That's why they have
the reputation they have. 8.0 is a fluke that was caused, in my
opinion, by Apple's commitment to a deadline rather than on quality
before release, which is an unfortunate mistake.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <siegh...@live.ca>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 2:01 PM
Subject: RE: how to sync apps with iTunes 12: why change things that
worked like in iTunes 11
Hi Charles and Pablo,
I think Microsoft and Apple should hire you guys since you appear to
have deep insight in how an OS should be developed and what features it
should have. The point here is that companies don't always know how
people will react to a product. Yes, you can do focus groups and surveys
and yet something still might be a total bust. Windows 8 was released
because Microsoft is trying to gap the bridge between their desktop OS
and the mobile OS they use on their phones. Windows 10 will further
complete this step and yes, they realized that especially businesses
like the desktop although I have a lot of sighted friends who love
Windows 8 and even more like 8.1 and the approach with metro apps and
tiles and so on. In the end the consumers reaction drives innovation and
what things will be like. In a small way this is no different in my
retail store. You think it should be easy to bring in the products that
are good and which people like and will buy. Unfortunately, however, I
including my staff may think a certain product is totally cool and in
the end nobody buys it. This is just human nature and organizations are
made up of humans so mistakes are happen and will continue to happen. If
Microsoft had said "Oh, Windows 7 is great, it doesn't get better than
that so let's just leave it alone for the next 10 years" they would be
out of business. Why are their product recalls on things which have been
around for decades? Cars have been around for a hundred years and
sometimes there are major recalls because of some faulty part which
manufacturers should know how to get right, but it still happens. That's
just how things are and as the Borg would say "resistance is futile"
*smile*.
Regards,
Sieghard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Charles Rivard
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 11:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: how to sync apps with iTunes 12: why change things that
worked like in itunes 11
That reminds me of when the "New Coke" came out, and then was done away
with, and the renamed "Coke Classic" was, and still is, sold.
Research and
testing could have been done, and the whole situation would have been
avoided. And whatever happened to Windows 9?? They're jumping from 8
point
something or other to 10. With a grin of orneriness, I'll say that I'll
bet
9.0 was accessible and it worked well, so they scrapped it. In jest, of
course.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Pablo Morales"
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To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 1:27 PM
Subject: RE: how to sync apps with iTunes 12: why change things that
worked
like in itunes 11
Yes, I believe the same thing. The most part of changes that those
companies
are doing, ar only to sale the idea that the company is doing
something for
their customers. Windows 8 is a great example of this. Windows 8
changed
manythings. Now, those changes are needed? Those changes improved the
efeciency? Those changes helped the customers? Those changes are really
good?
No, obviously nno. Because of that windows 10 is coming, and this new
OS is
going to looks like windows 7, more than to windows 8.
Now what Microsoft won with windows 8?
Billions of dollars. The companies like intel, AMD, DELL, and a long etc
sold millions of computers when windows 8 appeared. IOs8 is the same
thing.
The improvements are there, but the quality of the OS is very poor.
Oh, that with the releases they are fixing bugs?
Yes, it is true, but apple should not make mistakes with problems like
wifi
connections, when they have a long experience with this kind of
problems.
Every IOs looks like they are not learning of their previous mistakes.
Every
release shows that they didn't learn of their previous mistakes with
voice
over. The problem is not that apple, or Microsoft does mistakes. The
problem
is that the customers pays those mistakes.
And is worse when the customers is happy paying for those mistakes.
-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 5:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: how to sync apps with iTunes 12: why change things that
worked
like in itunes 11
IMHO, the phrase "change for changes sake" is one of those worn out
terms that people trot out when they don't like some change or don't
take the time to understand it. How many people who have used this term
with respect to iTunes 12 have Googled to find out why Apple made the
changes they did?
I also find it interesting how many people know more about software
development and marketing than Apple and Microsoft do. I can assure you
that these companies aren't making these changes just to keep their
developers busy and put out changes just to trick the customers into
thinking they're doing something and adding value. I'm also sure they
have more people looking at software trends, studying the market,
developing new technologies and doing product planning than all of the
amateur marketeers on this list. Furthermore, the future of these
companies depend on this forward thinking, whereas none of us on this
list have anything to lose if our opinions are off the mark.
Sure there are people out there who liked Windows XP and wish Microsoft
had never changed, but these people would be happy only until Microsoft
went out of business for not being able to remain competitive and then
they were forced to move to something else. I was a happy Symbian user
on Nokia, but I had to switch when that platform was dropped because it
was no longer competitive with IOS and Android. I'm also sure there are
or were some happy Blackberry users out there who've had to or will have
to find a new home. Sure there are some things I miss about Symbian, but
I wouldn't go back now that I've used both IOS and Android.
I also just haven't found some of these changes to be as significant as
some people would make you think. I didn't even realize I'd updated to
iTunes 12 until I saw the discussions on this list. I was still able to
backup my iPhone and install IOS 8.. I even reset my iPhone back to the
factory settings, restored everything and resynced all of my music and
apps with iTunes 12. Ditto for Windows. I've always been surprised how
much Vista, Seven and now Eight, look like XP after hearing all of the
gnashing of teeth over how much has changed. Sure there's been a
learning curve, but I've never had any trouble figuring out how to do
what I needed to do. Makes me wonder how many people use these terms
like "change for changes sake" or "dumbing down the interface" are just
parroting what they've heard or have actually even tried the application
they're criticizing.
On 11/08/2014 10:49 PM, Charles Rivard wrote:
To remain competitive, I would stay with something dependable and
stable
that continues to withstand the test of time. Chess is a good example.
Even after a few thousand years, it's still one of the best strategy
games for two players, and the rules of the game haven't been changed
all that much. Why haven't they? Because the game works as it is
designed to. On the other hand, companies like Microsoft are always
having issues with their new fangled, newly designed, current operating
systems when they had a perfectly good system, namely Windows XP.
However, they would rather stay current and innovative, as well as less
dependable and accessible than before.
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----- Original Message -----
*From:* David Chittenden <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:* Saturday, November 08, 2014 8:29 PM
*Subject:* Re: how to sync apps with iTunes 12: why change things
that worked like in itunes 11
Interestingly, you only feel this way when the product works
perfectly for your specific needs. On the other hand, even when the
product meets other people's needs, but it doesn't meet your needs,
you want the product to be changed. The fact is, other people have
different needs, and to remain competitiv:, companies need to
change
to remain viable, competitiv:, and alive. Think about it, how many
apps on the app store have not been upgraded and are now
effectively
dead? How many apps are no longer available because the creator has
gone on to other things?
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone
On 9 Nov 2014, at 14:28, Charles Rivard <wee1s...@fidnet.com
<mailto:wee1s...@fidnet.com>> wrote:
I totally agree. If it ain't broke, quit fixing it!! Adding new
features is OK, but don't remove what works well, and don't change
the layout so drastically that it doesn't even resemble what
really works well. In my opinion, changing something just because
you feel that it is time to do so, whether it be to antiquity or
to appear to stay current, makes no sense to me at all.
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----- Original Message -----
*From:* Fanus <mailto:buys.fa...@gmail.com>
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:* Friday, November 07, 2014 10:47 AM
*Subject:* how to sync apps with iTunes 12: why change things
that worked like in itunes 11
Hello list
I wonder why companies always change stuff that worked. I try
to transfer apps to my iPhone with iTunes 12 but there is no
"sync" button and I can't check and uncheck the apps in the
list. ITunes 11 worked so well, so I am always wondering why
change something that works?
Regards
Fanus
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