Hi, you say "the attribute information can be read," but of course, you don't say how. How does this make anything clear?
Neal -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joseph FreeTech Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 12:32 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available You're redirecting my point to whatever goal you have in mind, which is not relevant to the current discussion since I said nothing about Bluetooth keyboards or gestures as a means of accessing this information. I simply stated the attribute information can be read by VoiceOver and that it might only be an issue or limitation with the software developer and not VoiceOver as you previously claimed. Again, I'm trying to correct misunderstandings but these lists make this process difficult. Joseph ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Mosen" <jmo...@mosen.org> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 10:17 AM Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available Hi Joseph, then perhaps you could please tell us the Bluetooth keyboard commands and gestures to query the font attributes of the focussed item in iOS? We'd all be grateful. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org > On 11/11/2014, at 7:13 am, Joseph FreeTech <joseph.freet...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Not true. This issue doesn't appear to be entirely a VoiceOver limitation > but one most likely having to do with software developer. As I've written > before, the Google Sheets app can convey various text attributes such as > bold, italics, underlined, font, font size, etc--I'm listening to these > attributes right now. > > Joseph > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jonathan Mosen" <jmo...@mosen.org> > To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 9:57 AM > Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available > > > Hi Eileen. I agree. Microsoft has done an outstanding job in terms of the > accessibility of these apps, but now we're up against the limitations of > VoiceOver for iOS, in that there's o way to query the formatting, > attributes > etc, of text you're working with. Given that the iWork suite is also a > pretty good experience, I hope Apple addresses these issues for VoiceOver > in > iOS 9. The best hope we have of that happening is to request it of Apple > Accessibility. > Jonathan Mosen > Mosen Consulting > Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training > http://Mosen.org > >> On 8/11/2014, at 6:14 am, Eileen Misrahi <eileen.misr...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Hi Richard, >> >> I'm curious on what you find. I was able to select the attribute in the >> list, but there was no method to know that it was inserted into the doc. >> The 2 Items I tried were bullets and heading style 1 in the free >> version. >> That's why I posted in the first place. Thanks and I look forward to your >> next post regarding MS Word. >> >> Eileen >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Nov 7, 2014, at 6:53 AM, Richard Turner <rich...@turner42.com> wrote: >>> >>> The options for bold and all that seem to show up in the free version, >>> but I have not had time to see if they actually work. >>> I'd suggest trying them and see what happens. >>> It looks like most of the basic formatting is included. >>> >>> As for Outlook, it is available with the Office 365 subscription. I >>> think the sbuscriptions start at $9.95 per month, (there might be a >>> discount if you buy by the year) so unless someone is a real power user >>> of the office products, and don't mind spending around $100 per year for >>> the privilege, they should go for it. >>> >>> Richard >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>> Behalf Of Eileen Misrahi >>> Sent: Friday, November 7, 2014 6:36 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> In response to using Outlook, it's a matter of its value to the user and >>> for how long one has been familiar with the software. It's all a matter >>> of preference. >>> >>> On another note, I started dabbling with the MS Word app on my phone. My >>> question to the list is: In order to use various attributes in Word such >>> as heading styles, bullets, bold, underline, and etc. Does one need a >>> 365 >>> account? I use a tremendous amount of markup when creating training >>> materials and documents for work, but if the free app can take care of >>> it >>> that would be sweet. I'm not opposed to purchasing the product, but if I >>> can get by for free this time, it would be great. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Best, >>> Eileen >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Nov 7, 2014, at 5:20 AM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I would agree the native Mail app is pretty good. I've experimented >>>> with >>>> a few different mail apps on IOS and Android, and nothing really comes >>>> close. That being said, there are a lot of apps out there for a reason. >>>> Not every app is to everyone's taste, and I can see where an Outlook >>>> app >>>> might have some features that would appeal to someone that wouldn't be >>>> in the native Mail app on the iPhone. >>>> >>>>> On 11/07/2014 01:42 AM, Christopher Hallsworth wrote: >>>>> Sorry but I have to agree here! Mail is the one and only app I would >>>>> use >>>>> under iOS, not because it's packed full of features and of course >>>>> totally accessible; it's also built into the operating system! >>>>> >>>>>> On 07/11/2014 04:58, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >>>>>> As far as I know there is no Outlook for iOS. I also don t see any >>>>>> need for it since the native Mail app is fantastic and I wish Outlook >>>>>> had some of its features. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Sieghard >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>>>> Behalf Of Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 12:54 PM >>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>> Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> do they have a outlook app only or is it just word excel and the >>>>>> like? >>>>>> >>>>>> On 11/6/2014 1:52 PM, Alan Lemly wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I was checking through my Apps Store updates today and noticed that >>>>>> the Office Mobile app stated that the individual applications were >>>>>> now >>>>>> available. When selecting update, I was taken to a screen where I >>>>>> could download Excel, Word, and PowerPoint separately. Each app >>>>>> provides access to files on Dropbox and allows editing as well when >>>>>> the user has a Microsoft account. I did not sign up for it but a >>>>>> premium service is also available. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm not a fan of editing Office documents on my phone and prefer to >>>>>> use my computer for this but I know several who are interested in >>>>>> doing so. I will say that I opened both Excel and Word files using >>>>>> these new separate apps and was very impressed with their >>>>>> accessibility and how easy reading my files seemed to be especially >>>>>> with Excel. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm sure others will weigh in with comments on these Office apps as >>>>>> they put them through their paces. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Alan Lemly >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Christopher (CJ) >>>> chaltain at Gmail >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the viphone >>>> list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. 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