I don’t remember the name this really good losless streaming service will be called in USA, but are founded in Norway and lunced in many european countries. In Norway it is called WIMP. I believe they will lounch in USA in 2015. When using Google Chrome on Mac i have an Voice Over accessible browser music player for lossless cd quality. This is the only option on Mac with Voice Over. Iphone app is Voice Over friendly too, but don’t uppgrade before the accesibility for Voice Over is fixed after updates. So far, when it is fixed it is done good. Just have to wait for a few weeks after updates.
I have a problem hitting the search for artist field at the moment with voice over. With the Google Chrome player. This is a major issue for many. Otherwise you can do everything. Watch out for this Norwegian music streaming service soon. Another option for music like this is good. Take care 18. des. 2014 kl. 23:00 skrev Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca>: Those are speeds I can only dream of at this point. I thought even optic/fibre was only 50 or 100 Mbps down and 10 or 25 up respectivevely. I live in a small town in northwestern British Columbia. Apparently we are soon getting LTE here, but there is no optic TV service yet and it's unlikely we get fibre to the house any time soon. The normal residential ADSL is 6 down and 1 up which especially on the upstream speed realistically means 0.5 to 0.7 up. I get the 25 down and 5 up at my business and was lucky to get in on a trail with Telus where they are testing a wireless modem which uses the 2.3 Ghz frequency and offers LTE speeds. I am having this for free until next May and then I will have to find out if they even continue the service, at this point it was basically a situation where they had to use the band or loose it so they gave a bunch of business customers these modems for free for 1 year. Regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Don Breda Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 1:48 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Sonos speakers Well Deezer does give you the lossless streaming at this point its still $10 per month. They are in the process of recoding a lot of their music so that is something to be aware of but truthfully I just haven't had one dropout with deezer or tidal and the sound was quite comparable. I do have 300mbps down and 20mpbs up here but even over lte deezer has worked great when I am not on wifi and I have all strems set to high bandwith. Don On 12/18/2014 4:33 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > Hi Don, > > I guess it all depends on how serious you are with these services. I prefer > quality and so far it seems that Tidal is definitely a step above the rest > although Deezer offers a $20 subscription which they say also includes > lossless format streaming. I will have to sit down and talk to sonos, submit > some diagnostic reports from my system and see if they can find out why I am > getting this behavior where songs only play part way and then skip. I had > signed up with a german service called Aupeo and experienced the same > behavior and just thought it was because it was a much less expensive > subscription and just not as good. I have 1 Sonos connect at my business as > well and it's wired into my router and I have experienced the same with > Deezer. My internet connection there is ADSL with 25 Mbps down and 5 Mbps up > which should be plenty fast enough even for lossless streaming. > > I don't know what kind of bandwidth Netflix requires, but I never have any > issues with it via my Apple TV which is connected wirelessly to my home > network. > > > Regards, > Sieghard > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Don Breda > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 12:56 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Sonos speakers > > Hi Sieghard > > > I had a subscription to Tidal and gave it up. > > I also have a deezer subscription and like it very much. I have never > once had the problem you describe with deezer. > > I didn't like tidal all that much only because their search results > seemed rather limitted. I must say I do have complaints with most music > services regardign searches and results but Tidal never seemd to display > all the hits for a search query either in the iPhone app or the sonos > implementation. > > For some reason they never seem to display all the results they have for > a search. > > I finally let the subscription go. > > I currently subscribe to deezer, beats, and google play music. > > Not sure yet what I will settle on. > > One reason is because I dont' know what Apple is going to do with beats yet. > > Don > > > On 12/18/2014 2:59 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >> Hi Don, >> >> Good thing I read your reply before answering Dave's questions, your >> descriptions are very well put and right on the money. Only thing I would >> add for Dave is that if you want to connect external sources like your CD >> player or minidisc player, you have to go with the Play 5 as it is the only >> player apart from the Connect and connect Amp which has an input. The Play 3 >> sounds very nice as well and even the Play 1 with a Sonos sub is quite >> amazing, but neither the Play 1 or Play 3 have an input. Anyhow, if you want >> the best sound a set of Play 5 are the way to go and it's only a $100 price >> difference per player between the Play 3 and Play 5. >> >> Keep in mind that Sonos does offer a 45-day satisfaction guaranty so if you >> think you are ready to give this a try just call Sonos and order your >> equipment, then enjoy and decide after a few weeks of hands on experience if >> it's for you. Chances are you'll love it. >> >> I'm just waiting for Sonos to add support for the new Tidal music service. >> They just send me an offer for a 2-months subscription at 40% off the >> regular price of $19.99 per months and I was listening to some stuff via the >> Tidal iPhone app using my $200 V-Mota headset and it sounded amazing. Tidal >> streams in lossless FLAC format so if you have high-end equipment it is >> really worth it. I also have a Deezer subscription which I received for free >> with my latest Sonos purchase and for some reason the stream constantly >> jumps ahead to the next song, it barely plays a song to the end, but half >> way through it jumps to the next song. Sonos tells me that is because of my >> internet connection, but I am getting about 30 to 35 Mbps down and 8 to 9 >> Mbps up with a reasonable ping time so I don't quite understand this and >> when I was streaming via the Tidal app on my iPhone I listened for an hour >> without a single drop-out or interruption. Anyhow, I think tidal will be >> worthwhile to look at once it's on Sonos. The app is a bit cluttered here >> and there, but it is fully accessible. I hope their Sonos implementation >> will be full-featured and not like Spotify where you can only access a >> fraction of the features. This is one reason why I just cancelled my Spotify >> Premium subscription, I'd rather pay a bit more for Tidal and get better >> features and the much higher quality. Once Tidal is available via my Sonos >> system I'll do a separate post/review. >> >> >> Regards, >> Sieghard >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Don Breda >> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 11:20 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Sonos speakers >> >> Hi Dave. >> >> I will insert my answers between your quoted questions. >> >> >> On 12/18/2014 12:40 PM, Dave Sheridan wrote: >>> Hi List >>> >>> I'm looking for hifi equipment as most of what I have I've been using for >>> close on 30 years. There were some useful posts a few weeks ago regarding >>> Sonos speakers from which I have one or two questions which hopefully you >>> can help me with. Am I right in thinking that the Sonos Sub along with >>> either the Sonos 1, 3 or 5 would provide very good sound for listening to >>> music? Secondly, >> I would suggest two play 5s and a sub for one room. >> >> Really makes for some nice listening and also will help with connecting >> other analog devices to your sonos system, see below. >> >> >>> whilst I have have wifi at home it can be a little variable so would the >>> Sonos Boost be a worthwhile purchase along with the other products? >> The advantage of the boost is that it allows you the freedom to put the >> speakers anywhere you want. >> >> IF you don't have it then at leasone of your sonos speakers must connect >> via ethernet cable to your router. This may restrict your ability to >> plase the speakers where you really want them. In my opinion its not a >> bad idea. >> >> The latest version of the sonos firmware howerver allows for wifi >> connection to your router without a boost. Since your wifi seems >> somewhat iffie I would suggest the boost as a good idea. >> >> >>> Thirdly, although I have a significant amount of my cd collection on >>> external hard drive, I still have a large collection of cds and would >>> therefore want to use a cd player. Would this be easily connected to the >>> speakers? Fourth, I have a large minidisc collection and good Sony minidisc >>> player, would this easily be connectable to the speakers? >> Having two play 5 speakers will allow you two line in connections to the >> system so you could put your cd player on one and your mini disk player >> on the other. >> >> >>> Fifth, would control of such a system be better controlled through an >>> iPhone, PC or MacBook or would any of these do the job? >> I suggest most often control of your system will be done quite easily >> and successfully through the iPhone and of course thats most desirable. >> >> I have found thogh that some things such as adding services and feeding >> differernt streams to diffent rooms are accomplished more easily through >> the pc controler but are doable on the iPhone. >> >> I have't had experience with the sonos controler on the mac but as I >> recall it was not very useable so would probably be the last resort. >> >> I could be wrong about that though. >> >> >>> Finally, whilst retaining my actual copies of cds would I benefit from >>> purchasing space in the cloud to store my music and is playing music from >>> the cloud straightforward? >> In my opinion I rarely see a reason anymore to have music stored in my >> home at all whether on cd or hard drive. >> >> Subscribing to a good music service such as deezer beats music or >> something like that gives you access to a music collection it would take >> ten life times and a billion dollars to amass. >> >> No need to waste storage space or physical storage space any more for music. >> >> Thats just my opinion and I am sure many will argue. >> >> To access the music collection from anywhere at any time is a true >> luxury and easily accomplished these days without any investment in >> hardware. >> >> If you want to put your cds on the cloud then google play music which is >> supported by sonos gives you the best of both worlds. >> >> You have googles vast music collection at your finger tips as well as >> having the ability to upload your own collection to the google play >> music cloud so you have access to it anywhere. >> >> Hope this ehlps. >> >> Don >> >> >>> I thank you for your time and any responses which will help me spend my >>> money well. >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> > -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. 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