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Ray
> On Jun 15, 2017, at 11:06 PM, John Leslie <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> We have submitted the first of three drafts discussing Remote Hubs.
>> Please provide comments on the VMEET list.
>> 
>> Three types of remote hubs are defined.  Each has its own characteristics.
>> 
>>  - Remote Participation Hubs
>>  - Remote Viewing Hubs
>>  - Enduring Local Meetups
>> 
>> The first document defines a Remote Participation Hub (RPH).
>> Other documents are coming to define the other types of hubs.
>> A common structure of sections will be used as far as possible for all
>> hub types.
>> 
>> URL: 
>> https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-elkins-ietf-remote-participation-hubs-00.txt
> 
>   This reads as overly bureaucratic; and IMHO fails to describe a useful
> concept.
> 
>   IETF weeks have always been intended to attract participants to work
> they are not already familiar with.
> 
>   But even if we were to abandon that, it would still be necessary to
> provide an opportunity for participants at a Remote Participation Hub
> to also, at a minimum, follow other sessions not managed by the folks
> in charge of the Remote Participation Hub.
> 
>   Without that ability, experienced IETF folks would have to decline
> to be phsically present at a Remote Participation Hub.
> 
>   Thus, I regard managing a Remote Participation Hub (in accordance with
> this document) as pointless.
> 
>   I do understand that there exist companies that would be willing to
> provide a room for their employees to "attend" a single session; but
> this IMHO is outside the ethos of the IETF, and should not be allowed
> to increase the burden on the folks who arrange and manage IETF weeks.
> (There is no reason companies can't already do that without creating
> the bureaucratic burden.)
> 
>   A more useful definiton af "Remote Participation Hib" would be a
> place where experienced IETF participants may meet together to
> "participate" in an IETF week without the current burdens of travel,
> visas, etc., and invite potential IETF participants to get a taste
> of what an IETF week is like.
> 
> --
> John Leslie <[email protected]>
> 
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