Well, *IF* VZW had never had a porting relationship with that SPID, they would 
have to communicate some how to establish that relationship. 




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----- Original Message -----

From: "Oren Yehezkely" <oren...@gmail.com> 
To: "Carlos Alvarez" <caalva...@gmail.com>, "voiceops@voiceops.org" 
<VoiceOps@voiceops.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2021 2:58:32 PM 
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Verizon says they have "no relationship" to port from 
thinQ/Commio 


IMHO there is no need to call anybody. 
The guy in VZW just does not know the work. 
If I undertook you correctly. 


On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 3:17 PM Carlos Alvarez < caalva...@gmail.com > wrote: 



Commio/thinQ is a fancy API over Intelliquent et al, but seems to maybe have 
their own SPID? I've never worked in "real" telecom so I don't know those deep 
details of the porting process. VZW's message said they were trying to contact 
Commio and couldn't get anyone to answer a phone. Not shocked, per my previous 
message about thinQ's ethics, I feel they are questionable. 




On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 12:45 PM Mike Hammett < voice...@ics-il.net > wrote: 

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We actually are a small provider and when I went to find out how to do this, I 
was told to sign into the NPAC helpdesk, bulletin boards, contacts, then search 
by region, SPID, etc. Then ask how to establish said relationship. I've heard 
it referred to various ways, trading partner, carrier partner, porting partner, 
etc. 


Obviously, Verizon should know that, but maybe all they need is to be shown 
that you're not a slouch, and that you're not giving up. 


Is ThinQ their own LEC or are they just a fancy API on top of Level 3, 
Bandwidth, Peerless, etc.? 




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From: "Carlos Alvarez" < caalva...@gmail.com > 
To: "VoiceOps" < voiceops@voiceops.org > 
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2021 12:12:21 PM 
Subject: [VoiceOps] Verizon says they have "no relationship" to port from 
thinQ/Commio 


A customer is porting a number to VZW, and they can't figure it out. They 
called me to ask if I had "more info" to help them port out from Commio. My 
return call went to VM, so I don't have more info, but thought I'd ask here on 
the list. Any ideas on how this can be, or what to recommend? 


I know Verizon is a small carrier, and may not be wise to the ways of telecom. 


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