To my surprise, what I learned over the last few days is that most of the STI-CAs on iconectiv's list will offer you a standalone cert if asked. I also didn't even think to ask Sansay, since as a SBC vendor I just assumed (which, we all know what assuming does...) that they jumped in as a CA as a benefit to their existing customer base and as a way to make their SBC product line more enticing as a "turn-key" solution to potential new customers.
I very much appreciate Carlos reaching out to me. To anybody else who might be in a similar position, I highly recommend talking to them. Their cert pricing is extremely competitive, they are helpful and responsive, and their policies are also quite reasonable. Quite a 180 in most respects from some of the other vendors I reached out to. To just fill in a bit more context, my post here was kicked off when we -- whose voice side of the business is still de minimis -- received a quote from one CA for $6,000/yr for a standalone cert. Highway robbery. -- Nathan From: Carlos Perez [mailto:cpe...@sansay.com] Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2022 12:29 PM To: Mary Lou Carey Cc: Nathan Anderson; Voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] STI-CA average pricing Sansay provides the standalone CA solution as well if that’s what’s needed. On Sat, Jun 4, 2022 at 11:06 AM Mary Lou Carey <mary...@backuptelecom.com<mailto:mary...@backuptelecom.com>> wrote: As far as I know, NEUSTAR is the only CA that will allow you to get a token without using their STIR/SHAKEN services.I know that there are multiple options for the STIR/SHAKEN products so make sure to ask about the various products / price ranges. MARY LOU CAREY BackUP Telecom Consulting Office: 615-791-9969 Cell: 615-796-1111 On 2022-06-03 10:22 PM, Nathan Anderson wrote: > Starting to collect quotes for SHAKEN cert signing from STI-CAs, and > got our first response back. > > I also got whiplash at the same time. > > Although I didn't have to sign an NDA or agree to any kind of > confidentiality in order to get this response, since nobody seemingly > wants to publish their pricing, I will (at least for the time being) > keep both the quote itself as well as the vendor name close to my > chest. But...dang. > > Though I'm hoping to be surprised, I'm guessing that there isn't a > wide difference in pricing between various STI-CAs. Can people here > confirm that I'm likely to mostly hear same-y figures from others? Or > if there are options that are significantly cheaper than others, who > do y'all recommend that I should be talking to? > > Note that I'm only talking about the CA component as a standalone > offering, though I'll observe that with very few exceptions, it also > doesn't seem like too many vendors are either willing to unbundle the > CA service from their overall "end-to-end cloud-based SHAKEN" > products, or if they are, they seemingly don't like to publicize it. > > To put my response to this pricing in context, we are a relatively > small regional broadband provider, and voice is a fraction of a > fraction of our business. I'd wager just about everyone else here has > a larger voice subscriber base than we do, and most of you probably > didn't blink when you saw the price-tag on what it would take to > become part of the STIR/SHAKEN ecosystem...just the cost of doing > business, right? > > We do have effective CLID anti-spoof already & have since the > beginning, and as a small provider, we also were *supposed* to have > another 12 months to get up to speed on all of this and start signing > calls...at least, that was the case until the FCC moved that timetable > up in what I can only describe as a Darth Vader-esque "altering [of] > the deal". We didn't get that memo in December but only about 3ish > months ago, and it's not like I don't have plenty of other things to > do, so I'm already coming into this project plenty pissed off... > > *sigh* Anyway, I can see that the gate-keepery-ness of this industry > is still alive and well. Though I can understand wanting to keep out > the riff-raff, you would think that all of the hurdles that one needs > to clear in order to get this far -- getting an OCN, on-boarding with > the STI-PA, etc. -- would be enough without also throwing yet another > huge mandatory & ongoing expense on top of the pile as well. > > Sorry. Didn't mean for this to turn into a rant, but...ugh. > > -- > Nathan Anderson > First Step Internet, LLC > nath...@fsr.com<mailto:nath...@fsr.com> > > _______________________________________________ > VoiceOps mailing list > VoiceOps@voiceops.org<mailto:VoiceOps@voiceops.org> > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps@voiceops.org<mailto:VoiceOps@voiceops.org> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops -- Carlos Perez Sansay, Inc. +1 858-754-2216 Direct +1 858-754-2211 Support +1-858-754-2200 Main https://calendly.com/cperez-sansay/30min
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