Jay beat me too it. Force G.711 and set packetization to 10ms if you can. Also, 
try in-band audio. Some older alarm panels don't work well with NTE 101. 
Adtran's don't always pickup every DTMF tone which can result in missing or 
doubled DTMF tones.


--- The problem is happening before SIP is involved or in the case of GR303 
there is no SIP unless sent out IQNT for example. But if that takes place that 
means we collected the digits properly.

At the end of the day, I would urge the customer to put the fire alarms on 
cellular communicators. We constantly fight with signals over phone lines. Even 
if you get it working on your side today, that doesn't mean it will work a 
month from now if one of your carriers makes a change and backhauls over SIP 
using a different codec.

--- I am afraid we have almost reached the point where we will fire the 
customer. Have them choose a different vendor as their only response to us is 
that it worked on the DMS 100 and now it does not. While I agree with that I 
cannot seem to get any information from them on possible changes they can make 
in the alarm panel or share documentation on it so I can read up.

--- It is almost like this small localized region had fire alarm panels setup 
in a unique way compared to the 100s and 100s of other alarm panels we serve 
throughout New England.


Matt

Thanks,
Mike



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Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Alarm panels and how they dial DTMF digits - pots 
migration from DMS to Metaswitch issue


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On 2/13/23 11:15, Matthew Yaklin via VoiceOps wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I guess I have an old school question for the list. The question is we are 
> having trouble with alarm panels dialing and our gear collecting the DTMF 
> digits properly. Only from a company ran by a single alarm panel guy who is 
> not terribly helpful. At least 7 different sites are having the same problem 
> on different copper pairs/T1s. Different gear. Etc...

Is the issue that the alarm panels can't complete a call to the central 
monitor, or do they ring in OK and then cant pass DTMF inband once connected to 
communicate the nature of the alarm?

Alarm panels are essentially a form of modem. You might turn on modem 
passthrough and ensure that your codecs are forced to G.711. Other codecs don't 
play well with modem-like applications.

If the DTMF digits used to set up the call are failing, then there's likely 
something out of spec with the DTMF encoders in the alarm panels, frequency or 
twist. Or something different in the call setup like a leading 9 for a PBX that 
no longer exists. What does the sending Adtran show for the dialed digits on 
the call?

Got a Sage 930A gathering dust on a shelf?

Using VoIP or anything that requires local power for fire alarms in general is 
another topic.

--
Jay Hennigan - j...@west.net
Network Engineering - CCIE #7880
503 897-8550 - WB6RDV

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