But if you have five solder joints on conenction to the +ve terminal and 7 on 
the connection to the -ve terminal at different locations on the PCB, then all 
bets are off ... 


Regards,
David Partridge
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Mike S
Sent: 28 January 2013 17:11
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Some questions to zeners (thermoelectric effects)


On 1/28/2013 8:48 AM, Tony Holt wrote:
 > Could the sense wires be welded to
 > the ADC pins between the solder connection to the PCB and the package to  > 
 > avoid the thermal EMFs of a solder joint?

I don't think welding would make the difference, unless the wire is made of the 
same material as the pin.

I'm also not clear to me how low-EMF solder helps in most cases. Solder joints 
tend to be small and local, and it's the temperature difference between the 
terminals which brings the thermoelectric effect into play.

For example, two copper wires soldered together - you have a Cu-solder joint, 
followed by a solder-Cu joint, in very close proximity. As long as "close" is 
close, and/or there's good thermal mass/conductivity, don't the thermocouples 
simply offset each other?

More realistically, take a device with common tinned brass terminals on a PC 
board. You have brass/tin, tin/solder then solder/copper thermocouples in very 
close proximity, essentially resulting in a brass/copper thermocouple. It seems 
that the temperature difference between that connection and the similar 
thermocouples at the far end device connection would overwhelm the local 
effects due to solder, which require a temperature gradient across some small 
fraction of a mm.

Even with much larger, hand soldered terminals, something similar would seem to 
apply. Wouldn't thermally insulating the terminals (which by nature have pretty 
good thermal conductivity) to ensure a consistent temperature across them be as 
good or better than just low EMF solder?

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Mike
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