Ed, thank you, that pencil trick is one I don't know.  One of the problems with 
being "self taught".

Mind you, if it is FB round the op-amp, then anywhere in the FB loop might well 
show as a culprit :(

Regards,
David Partridge
-----Original Message-----
From: volt-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf 
Of Ed Breya
Sent: 30 January 2013 04:57
To: volt-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] 7081 AC buffer *again*

I agree with JL - it's either picking up an available frequency, or making its 
own. Oscillation can happen with transistors, especially any common-base 
amplifiers or emitter followers that don't have enough degeneration - but that 
is usually in the VHF range. For MHz-type oscillations, look for opamp loops 
that went unstable for some reason - bad grounds or bypassing can do it.

An old trick for VHF is to poke around with the tip of a wood-sheathed lead 
pencil - the partially-conductive graphite core and the lossy wooden 
capacitance to an even lossier hand would sometimes damp oscillations and point 
directly to the problem, so to speak. For lower frequency you need brute force 
- try a small screwdriver, a meter probe lead, or tweezers held in the hand, 
and just poke around on various nodes, without shorting anything out. If that's 
not enough, a small RC series damper - say 1000 pF and a few hundred ohms - 
with a clip lead to ground should show some results. All you're looking for is 
some effect - it should either reduce or aggravate the problem when you are 
around the problem circuit. You will naturally be injecting all kinds of line 
frequency and RF interference into any high-Z circuits, so ignore that and just 
look for the effects at the target frequency.

Ed
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