Hi,

We have the professional Eagle at work. I also own a pro copy at home. The learning curve is a bit steep, but we have done some pretty neat stuff with it. It's more than paid for itself at home and at work. It's not really a cheap cad package, but it's also not the high end cad. Sort of a middle of the road. Same sort of issues with CAD/CAM packages for CNC also.

As for auto routers, none of them really work all that well IMO. Even the high end cad packages struggle with it. It's really hard to do in an autorouter what a good RF or analog engineer does in his mind, so that's to be expected I guess.

As for upgrading, we also experienced upgrade issue going from Ver5 to Ver7. And from Ver3.5 to Ver4.16, and from 2 to... This last upgrade from Ver5 to Ver7 we had trouble with 126 of about 1000 schematic/board sets. About half of those were things guys had done stupid. However the XML format allowed editing of most of the files, and after about 2 days everything was upgraded successfully to ver7. So, yeah, pretty painful.

The one thing I will say about Eagle, is the few questions I've had were answered with a quick phone call. Not sure if KiCAD has phone support or not. In a business environment, that can be worth a lot.

When you do the new board with KiCAD, be sure to post some results to your induction list. I'd like to hear how it works out...

Dan



We have the Professional licenses.  As you say, the learning curve is
steep but once learned, I find myself surprisingly productive.  But the
autorouter is junk.  We bought one license but I never could get it
configured to do anything useful.

We have a LOT of IP tied up in Eagle's proprietary version 5 format.  We
upgraded to 6 and 7 but the conversion to the new XML splattered every
layout we threw at it so we demanded a refund and are still using V5.

The real catalyst for our move to KiCad was that after they'd collected
a bunch of upgrade fees, they announced that the new version would come
with copy protection.  The user base revolted and they backed down in a
little less than 6 weeks.  But lesson learned.

I'll keep a current unlicensed version installed so I can view what
others are doing but our involvement with Eagle is over.

I'm starting a new induction heater design next week using KiCAD.  I'll
occasionally report on how it's going.

John
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