Hi all Just got back from Electronica in Munich where i did have a small conversation with keysight people about 3458A Rohs issue, they have a vague idea about when it will kick-in , but where sure about availability of the meter in the future. Probably they have some kind of workaround to avoid shortage on the market. (not that a beast like 3458A goes by the millions) As an EU member myself and maker/seller of electronics equipment shall I say that EU regulation are at least byzantine and usually you can read it from left to right and reverse , so let’s see what happens.
> Il giorno 29 ott 2016, alle ore 20:13, Dimitrij Klingbeil <dkli...@gmail.com> > ha scritto: > > As far as I can interpret the directive, not being an expert on any things > legal: > > It looks like they are exploiting the difference in definitions between to > "make available on the market" and to "place on the market", where to "place > on the market" is defined as to "make available on the market for the first > time". > > The legal restriction states that "Member States shall ensure that EEE placed > on the market, including cables and ... , does not contain the substances > listed in ...". Please note that there is only a "placed on the market" > phrase in there, not a "made available on the market" or an equivalent. > > It therefore does not explicitly restrict making equipment available on the > market in general, but only the placement of it on the market - that is the > "first time" "making it available on the market". > > Therefore it would be allowed NOW (since we don't have 31.12.2016 yet) to > sell said equipment to a distributor, a company that is, from a legal > perspective, an independent economic operator. This "for the first time" > sale, once it has happened inside the EU, would constitute the "placement on > the market", and as of now, it's still legal. The distributor may own and > stock the items in question for an indefinite time (this is not restricted) > and also continue to sell them. Subsequent resale is only "making available > on the market", not "placement on the market" as the sale of each item is not > happening "for the first time" any more (since this has already been done in > the original sale from the manufacturer to the distributor, before the > restriction went into effect). > > Dimitrij > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd)" > <drkir...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk> > To: "Discussion of precise voltage measurement" <volt-nuts@febo.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 6:57 PM > Subject: [volt-nuts] Availability of 3458A in Europe after the end of 2016. > > >> The 3458A page on the Keysight website is interesting. >> >> "Notice for European Union Customers: This product is not updated to EU >> RoHS compliance and can be ordered via Keysight directly or Keysight >> Authorized Distributors until 31 December 2016. Beyond this date, the >> product can still be purchased from Keysight Authorized Distributors. >> Please contact Keysight Authorized Distributors or your local Keysight >> sales representative for quotation and ordering." >> >> It seems you can't buy it from Keysight, but you can from their >> distributors. But most times I've contacted Keysight about buying things, >> they tell me to get them from their distributors anyway. >> >> If I interpret >> >> >> https://www.gov.uk/guidance/rohs-compliance-and-guidance >> >> correctly, nobody should be stick non-compliant things in the EU market. >> >> I can't be bothered to read in detail the >> >> "DIRECTIVE 2011/65/EU OF THE EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT AND OF THE COUNCIL of 8 >> June 2011 on the restriction of the use of certain hazardous substances in >> electrical and electronic equipment (recast)" >> >> http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2011:174:0088:0110:EN:PDF >> >> as I some paint I want to watch dry. But a cursory glance shows exceptions, >> but none seem relevant to a 3458A. >> >> Dave >> _______________________________________________ >> volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. > > _______________________________________________ > volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts > and follow the instructions there. _______________________________________________ volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts and follow the instructions there.