Ever wonder why they haveĀ  FOUR 732b units in a 734?

(smile) You need at least 3 of anything unknown. 4 is better.


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Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 16:33:55 +0000
From: Alan Ambrose <alan.ambr...@anagram.net>
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Subject: [volt-nuts] 732A drift
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My 732A<x-apple-data-detectors://28> e.g. has a drift of only about 0.2ppm pa 
over a couple of year
Hope you don't mind me jumping on this thread and asking a basic question: is 
there any kind of procedure for the 'enthusiast' (say with single 3458A/single 
732 and not say 4x732) to measure the drift of a particular 732.

Alan

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Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 05:15:18 +0000
From: Andre <an...@lanoe.net>
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Hi, first post!
Yeah, I ran into this issue a while back. Fortunately for most applications 10mV 
resolution is fine (eg measuring charge state on Li-ion cells) but I did find that old 
meters do seem to experience random drift failures of precision resistors and more so 
trimpots. Would it be a good idea for someone to do a "732 FAQ" with likely 
faults that would cause a particular matrix of symptoms?

Also how do you deal with failures where a precision component has "gone bad" ? Surely 
all the calibrations are suspect which is why any sensible engineer always has two references at a 
bare minimum and sets up a master/slave or main/backup then maintains a calibration table of each? 
so if a drift is seen then the "bad" unit can be dealt with sternly.

I looked into making a 10.0000Vref a while back and had some success with 
active feedback via thermal pad: it almost worked but in the end it was cheaper 
and simpler to buy one ready made (cough REF02 /cough)
Also relevant, since originally buying my RS IDM65 you can now get I2C 
precision CT references which can replace the troublesome parts
with something that does not drift, ever!

-Andre


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Subject: [volt-nuts] 732A drift

My 732A<x-apple-data-detectors://28> e.g. has a drift of only about 0.2ppm pa 
over a couple of year
Hope you don't mind me jumping on this thread and asking a basic question: is 
there any kind of procedure for the 'enthusiast' (say with single 3458A/single 
732 and not say 4x732) to measure the drift of a particular 732.

Alan
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On 30/08/2017 17:33, Alan Ambrose wrote:
My 732A<x-apple-data-detectors://28> e.g. has a drift of only about 0.2ppm pa 
over a couple of year
Hope you don't mind me jumping on this thread and asking a basic question: is 
there any kind of procedure for the 'enthusiast' (say with single 3458A/single 
732 and not say 4x732) to measure the drift of a particular 732.

Alan
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Not really, you have a Voltmeter and a 732b, they drift a little, how do you 
know which one is drifting, and by how
much? you cant know unless you have at least one other unit to compare with, 
then you can build a matrix of all the
relative drifts and then guess which one is actually the most accurate...

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