Frank,

 

“Bound nucleon”… this is the new twist to megahertz-meter? Which bound nucleon? 
 Isn’t it fair to ask: what good is a theory for LENR which does not apply to 
either hydrogen or deuterium?

 

The radius of the deuteron which is a bound nucleon is 2.14 fm … hydrogen is 
.8775 fm. 

 

That is fact and apparently it is an uncomfortable fact. Over the years we have 
argued these details, since you prefer not want to use real values of common 
reactants. Apparently, neither will plug-in to bolster the magic number, in the 
proper way, so you are compelled to locate a value unrelated to hydrogen which 
works. Is it not fair to suspect that you could be reaching out into cyberspace 
to find any value which makes the numbers fit where you wanted them to fit, 
rather than finding a natural relationship ?

 

 

From: Frank Znidarsic 

 

Jones you are wrong now as you were before.  I am speaking about the radius of 
the bound nucleon which is half of the nuclear wave number. 

 

1.35/2



-----Original Message-----
From: Jones Beene 

Bob, there is only one physical radius for the proton, the charge radius. 

 

Frank’s value is way off since he has always confused Compton wavelength with a 
physical dimension. Sure, we can recognize duality here, but if you want 
something to be based on a “speed” or quantum velocity less than c, as he does, 
then you must use the physical dimension not the equivalent wavelength. 

 

It’s really not that complicated: the Compton wavelength of a particle is 
equivalent to the wavelength of a photon whose mass-energy is the same as the 
rest-mass energy of the particle - which as you can see in the case of the 
proton - cannot be identical to the protons physical radius. That photon wave 
always travels at c, which is not the value which Frank has invented. I am not 
saying that Frank’s value has no relevance to some phenomenon, but he has never 
been able to demonstrate that AFAIK.

 

The extent of the strong force is immaterial.

 

Jones

 

 

From: Bob Cook 

 

Jones--

 

I think the item I just copied regarding the Woods-Saxon potential indicates 
for Hydrogen,  Z=1, that Frank is closer to the listed radius of 1.23 fm than 
you are at your .866 fm.   I think your radius is a "rms charge radius".  You 
and Frank may be talking about different dimensions of a nucleus.  Yours 
clearly only applies to a single proton as I understand it and is not a radius 
associated with the extent of the strong  nuclear force. 

 

Correct me if I am wrong.  

 

Bob Cook

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Jones Beene <mailto:jone...@pacbell.net>  

To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 

Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2014 12:04 PM

Subject: RE: [Vo]:1995- CETI 1kW reacto claim . fraud or not?

 

Sorry Frank, but you are just as wrong now as you were then.

 

http://physics.nist.gov/cgi-bin/cuu/Value?rp|search_for=proton+radius

 

 

 

 

 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Frank Znidarsic <mailto:fznidar...@aol.com>  

 

There were those that stated that my analysis was wrong because the wrong 
numbers came out of it.  Our Jones Beene was one of them.  He said the radius 
of a nucleon was .866 fm not 1.36 fm.  They bashed me badly

 

 

 

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