Thanks Axil. Some useful information there. On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 9:41 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:
> An excerpt from the Lugano report: > > "A thermocouple probe, inserted into one of the caps, allows the control > system to manage power supply to the resistors by measuring the internal > temperature of the reactor. The hole for the thermocouple probe is also the > only access point for the fuel charge. The thermocouple probe cable is > inserted in an alumina cement cylinder, which acts as a bushing and > perfectly fits the hole, about 4 mm in diameter. When charging the reactor, > the bushing is pulled out, and the charge is inserted. After the > thermocouple probe has been lodged back in place, the bushing is sealed and > secured with alumina cement. To extract the charge, pliers are used to open > the seal." > > The alumina to metal sealing technique that Rossi uses is both elegant and > simple. Rossi's alumina core tube has a hole at its end that is just a > little bit wider than the metal plug used to fill it. After Rossi fills the > alumina tube with fuel, there is a slight space (say ten thousandth of a > inch)between the metal plug and the hole in the alumina body(5.4). The > space will be coated with fuel which includes aluminum(22), lithium(46), > and nickel(13). > > The numbers in parentheses are the thermal coefficients of expansion of of > the various materials in the alumina and the fuel found in this table as > follows” > > http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/linear-expansion-coefficients-d_95.html > > A hole sealing process will occur to thermally bond the metal plug to the > hole in the alumina when heated as follows: > > As the alumina heats up, the fuel residue coating will form a tight > fitting metalized gadget between the metal plug and alumina hole. The fuel > will liquefy and form a aluminum nickel lithium alloy and fill the > micro-cracks on the surface of the hole and the metal plug. The metal plug > will be pressure welded into the hole because of the differences in the > thermal coefficients of expansion between the various metals ad the alumina > to form a leak proof seal that will stand up to very high gas pressure, > These recent tests by MFMP indicate that sealing alumina from hydrogen > leakage is a challenge. But the Rossi Hot Cat did run for weeks without > apparent loss of hydrogen. Rossi has come up with a way to effectively seal > alumina. > > How could have Rossi made the alumina tube resistant to hydrogen leakage? > > Could Rossi have used a self sealing fuel additive included in the fuel > mix that entered the pores of the alumina after the reactor was started to > minimize hydrogen exfiltration? > > There was a large amount of carbon in the element analysis of the fuel > load. Could it be that Rossi used a organic sealant to stop hydrogen > leakage? > > An excerpt from the Lugano report:"Sample 2 was the fuel used to charge > the E-Cat. It’s in the form of a very fine powder. Besides the analyzed > elements it has been found that the fuel also contains rather high > concentrations of C, Ca, Cl, Fe, Mg, Mn and these are not found in the ash. > > Where did all those rather high concentrations of elements go? Could it be > that the C, Ca, Cl, Fe, Mg, and Mn were nano particles used to seal the > fuel including hydrogen by blocking the pores of the alumina in a self > anodizing process in the initial stages during reactor startup? Carbon is a > well know hydrogen blocker. > > > > > On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 9:57 PM, Jack Cole <jcol...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> The description in the report is insufficient to determine what was used >> to make the seal and whether it was hermetically sealed. >> On Jan 15, 2015 8:53 PM, "Axil Axil" <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> It does work, It worked for Rossi for 32 days. >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Jack Cole <jcol...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> It might work. I have been looking at those options (i.e., metal >>>> compression fitting). >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Like Rossi did, MFMP has just tested and intends to use in their next >>>>> experiment a metal plug or a thermocouple probe to seal the fuel feed >>>>> hole in the alumina rod. >>>>> >>>>> Why is this sealing process not right for you? >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:53 PM, Jack Cole <jcol...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Yes, it bolsters the results of the first experiment by demonstrating >>>>>> that reliability. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well, it is a nice clean blank anyway. The two sets of points fit >>>>>>>> on top of one-another beautiful. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Meaning the instrument is reliable as a calorimeter. This is >>>>>>> important. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - Jed >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >