Thanks Axil.  Some useful information there.

On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 9:41 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:

> An excerpt from the Lugano report:
>
> "A thermocouple probe, inserted into one of the caps, allows the control
> system to manage power supply to the resistors by measuring the internal
> temperature of the reactor. The hole for the thermocouple probe is also the
> only access point for the fuel charge. The thermocouple probe cable is
> inserted in an alumina cement cylinder, which acts as a bushing and
> perfectly fits the hole, about 4 mm in diameter. When charging the reactor,
> the bushing is pulled out, and the charge is inserted. After the
> thermocouple probe has been lodged back in place, the bushing is sealed and
> secured with alumina cement. To extract the charge, pliers are used to open
> the seal."
>
> The alumina to metal sealing technique that Rossi uses is both elegant and
> simple. Rossi's alumina core tube has a hole at its end that is just a
> little bit wider than the metal plug used to fill it. After Rossi fills the
> alumina tube with fuel, there is a slight space (say ten thousandth of a
> inch)between the metal plug and the hole in the alumina body(5.4). The
> space will be coated with fuel which includes aluminum(22), lithium(46),
> and nickel(13).
>
> The numbers in parentheses are the thermal coefficients of expansion of of
> the various materials in the alumina and the fuel found in this table as
> follows”
>
> http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/linear-expansion-coefficients-d_95.html
>
> A hole sealing process will occur to thermally bond the metal plug to the
> hole in the alumina when heated as follows:
>
> As the alumina heats up, the fuel residue coating will form a tight
> fitting metalized gadget between the metal plug and alumina hole. The fuel
> will liquefy and form a aluminum nickel lithium alloy and fill the
> micro-cracks on the surface of the hole and the metal plug. The metal plug
> will be pressure welded into the hole because of the differences in the
> thermal coefficients of expansion between the various metals ad the alumina
> to form a leak proof seal that will stand up to very high gas pressure,
> These recent tests by MFMP indicate that sealing alumina from hydrogen
> leakage is a challenge. But the Rossi Hot Cat did run for weeks without
> apparent loss of hydrogen. Rossi has come up with a way to effectively seal
> alumina.
>
> How could have Rossi made the alumina tube resistant to hydrogen leakage?
>
> Could Rossi have used a self sealing fuel additive included in the fuel
> mix that entered the pores of the alumina after the reactor was started to
> minimize hydrogen exfiltration?
>
> There was a large amount of carbon in the element analysis of the fuel
> load. Could it be that Rossi used a organic sealant to stop hydrogen
> leakage?
>
> An excerpt from the Lugano report:"Sample 2 was the fuel used to charge
> the E-Cat. It’s in the form of a very fine powder. Besides the analyzed
> elements it has been found that the fuel also contains rather high
> concentrations of C, Ca, Cl, Fe, Mg, Mn and these are not found in the ash.
>
> Where did all those rather high concentrations of elements go? Could it be
> that the C, Ca, Cl, Fe, Mg, and Mn were nano particles used to seal the
> fuel including hydrogen by blocking the pores of the alumina in a self
> anodizing process in the initial stages during reactor startup? Carbon is a
> well know hydrogen blocker.
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 9:57 PM, Jack Cole <jcol...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The description in the report is insufficient to determine what was used
>> to make the seal and whether it was hermetically sealed.
>> On Jan 15, 2015 8:53 PM, "Axil Axil" <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> It does work, It worked for Rossi for 32 days.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Jack Cole <jcol...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It might work.  I have been looking at those options (i.e., metal
>>>> compression fitting).
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Like Rossi did, MFMP has just tested and intends to use in their next
>>>>> experiment  a metal plug or a thermocouple probe  to seal the fuel feed
>>>>> hole in the alumina rod.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why is this sealing process not right for you?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:53 PM, Jack Cole <jcol...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, it bolsters the results of the first experiment by demonstrating
>>>>>> that reliability.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, it is a nice clean blank anyway. The two sets of points fit
>>>>>>>> on top of one-another beautiful.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Meaning the instrument is reliable as a calorimeter. This is
>>>>>>> important.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Jed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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