Bob,
Do you have any comment on the Burgener patent in the context of Orbo? There are anomalies in circuits which seem to turn up whenever batteries, supercaps and electrets are combined. This is a lure, and Steorn bit - but no one has pulled it off before in a long term device. I have a feeling that Steorn saw a real anomaly but jumped the gun on bringing it to market too soon. It goes back to having both types of charge carriers (electron and ionic) and both types of current (conduction current and displacement current), combined with a constant source of phantom voltage from the electret, and in the case of Burgener – both a ferroelectric and ferromagnetic juxtaposition. Even with the problems which have turned up, I am less skeptical than before that there is a real energy anomaly here. This does not mean that Steorn is capable of harnessing it, since they have demonstrated no level of high skill or acumen (other than in fundraising) so the door is still open for others with the proper skills. From: Bob Higgins It appears from the Steorn video description pointed to by Jones below that the the "power packs" behave as an unusual capacitor. The device appears to have separate charge and discharge modes. In charge mode the capacitor-like "power-packs" are "charged" from a high voltage source (2x9V battery with series 1Mohm resistor). While charging, the capacitance appears to be very low, call it Cc, and it doesn't take much Coulombic charge (not many electrons) to reach a voltage of, say 5V. Then the capacitor-like "power pack" is switched to a load. In discharge, the capacitance, Cd, appears to be much higher than Cc, allowing more Coulombic charge (more electrons) to be taken out before the device reaches its minimum discharge voltage. This is a quite unusual [classically impossible over-unity] device, which still may be related to an electret. It appears that the capacitor-like "power pack" elements are of "jelly roll" construction due to their cylindrical form factor. If the "power pack" devices truly work in this fashion, I can easily see how over-unity energy is delivered. Jones Beene wrote: Prototypes have been shown. Not sure of current status as there were legal disputes involved. Eye witnesses under NDA have seen it producing electrical power. There is a chance that “something like this” is involved in the Steorn device (to the extent that either device actually works over an extended period) but I doubt it - since Steorn doesn’t seem to work, firstly - and secondly doesn’t have a magnetic field. Here is an update: <http://dispatchesfromthefuture.com/2016/02/new-video-reveals-ocube-components-describes-problems/> http://dispatchesfromthefuture.com/2016/02/new-video-reveals-ocube-components-describes-problems/