Jed, You do not have to be impressed. Just that is not of any value. COP 6 although we talk about a conservative number. I am not licences but COP 50 I can detect particularly in a 350 day test. I just do not see the reason to attack the person.
I appreciate your experience. It does have nothing to do with this report or any licensing. I can pass the exam just takes some time and effort. The problem is that you do judge people. You have no ground for that. Meeting people at a conference - I like and believe them offering me a beer. Then I am at home thinking - too fast. IH is an organization and know absolutely nothing. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros [email protected] +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM) On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 7:06 PM, Jed Rothwell <[email protected]> wrote: > Lennart Thornros <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> 1. Based on his previous work, Penon is not qualified to do calorimetry. I >> have no clue about how well you know this guys qualifications except you >> read a report you think was flawed. If the COP was 50, then I (and I am not >> good at calorimetry) could give the answer that at least COP6 was reached. >> > > As it happens, I just posted a message describing some of the reasons I am > not impressed. > > If you read the report, and you were impressed, I think you need to learn > a little more about calorimetry. It was as bad as the Lugano report. Some > of the same mistakes were in both. > > > >> 3. He is not licensed in Florida to do this kind of measurement. Sorry >> but license is just an issue of passing a simple exam and pay the fees. I >> know there is probably some experience required but that can always be >> fixed - believe me.BTW if he is licensed anywhere would that make a >> difference. >> > > A license and the proper procedures can be the difference between life and > death. The exams are NOT simple. I have seen them, and I am sure I would > fail them. > > I have never worked with large industrial equipment. But I have been in > factories, and in ship engine rooms. I have talked to OSHA inspectors and > HVAC engineers. My late father was fireman first class in the engine room > of a steamship built around 1910, and he told me a lot about it. He did > that for 6 years until his arm was crushed in an accident. There are not > one, not two, but DOZENS of ways you can kill yourself, blow up the > building or sink the ship when you make a mistake with a boiler. Even > today, with all the automatic controls, it is still dangerous. And yes, you > can confuse 200 kW with 1 MW (or vice versa) by doing it wrong. That is why > boilers blow up. Look at Defkalion for an example of how badly you can make > a mistake doing industrial scale calorimetry. > > > >> 4. I. H. said they disagree with the result. They know more about >> calorimetry than Penon does, so I am inclined to believe them. Now you >> are way out of line. IH does not know anything. >> > > I have met with those people at conferences. I can judge their knowledge. > > - Jed > >
