In reply to Jones Beene's message of Mon, 27 Jun 2016 15:14:57 -0700: Hi, [snip] >-----Original Message----- > >>Since bosons can occupy the same place > >RVS: No they can't. They can occupy the same quantum state, that is not the >same thing as the same physical location. > >Robin, > >We have been through this before. Some bosons, for instance photons, can and >do occupy the same space since they do not repel each other outside of >Bose-Einstein statistics ... google "squeezed coherent state"... Massive >bosons such as helium would not occupy the same space, but that is for >another reason (interatomic forces, such that gains from the B-E statistics >cannot overcome a prohibitive electrostatic potential) ... and thus bosonic >condensed helium will remain about the same density as in the liquid >non-bosonic state. > >However, dense hydrogen, if it becomes bosonic in the inverted Rydberg sense >(as Miley suggests) is far denser than liquid hydrogen or liquid helium - >and thus many atoms can appear to occupy the space which a single atom of >normal density would occupy. Technically, that increased density is not due >to Bose-Einstein statistics, but objectively the result is the same.
:) Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
